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Author Topic: Mabinogi-On Steam! Close combat revamp!  (Read 379952 times)

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« Reply #660 on: July 27, 2012, 04:34:54 pm »

Unfortunately there is not, aside from buying time.

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« Reply #661 on: July 27, 2012, 05:31:39 pm »

Alright already, I'll get the Clover Gnu. You people make compelling arguments, albeit ones that kind of pressure me into going outside my comfort zone. What else would I expect from dwarves though? Though by the way, the smallest amount of NX I can buy in this area via prepaid methods is $10, and I can only get $5 via my debit card. Also, the Clover pets require at least a $10 purchase, seeing as the Clover Pig is 6,200nx while the Clover Gnu is around 6,500nx to 6,800nx, I forget which.

Also, thank you for correcting me about that mail order bit. Personally I don't sell to players unless I know them very well, so that's not my area of expertise. Personally I don't like most of the Mabinogi community so I don't bother with them unless they bother with me. Though that may be why I'm in comparison to other players, "poor". Now if you excuse me, I've got to take a walk to unwind from all this drama regarding a pregnant schizophrenic woman my landlord has just now realized he mistakenly let move into my apartment in this here community housing facility.
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« Reply #662 on: July 27, 2012, 05:47:03 pm »

I want iron fragments. I'm trying to get refining till i can get silver and gold. If anyone wants mithril fragments, I can give it to you for free. Its eating space and I keep finding them more than iron but less than copper.
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« Reply #663 on: July 27, 2012, 05:57:19 pm »

Just a note to people who feel they can't contribute much: Be a Bard!  There's three great skills here.

Battlefield Overture gives a buff to attack power and critical rate - the attack buff is based on percentage.  Someone carrying a massive dual-handed blade will get a large increase.  Giants rejoice!  Seems to apply to bows as well, but I somehow doubt it affects magic.

Enduring Melody increases defense slightly, from 1 to 11 from ranks N to 1, as well as some modest protection, and perhaps most importantly it buffs your MP and SP recovery rate.  Should prove very useful for rafting and ballooning, as MP can become a bottleneck.

Lullaby is an odd one, but works surprisingly well.  Maxed out, it will keep an enemy asleep for 9 seconds, which is fairly massive, and provide bonus damage dealt to them.  The bard does NOT gain aggro, making it very possible for the bard to sit in the corner and play, providing a stagger effect on enemies in a dungeon room and shifting the multi-aggro threat down a notch.  Unfortunately it's based on your CP, and most low-level players will have poor CP and thus would be poor lullaby players.

Then there's the Harvest Song as well, which anyone who ever produces anything will enjoy.

All of these are buffed by your Playing Instrument level, and can receive an "excellent performance" buff of +10% or "inspired performance" of +30%.  Even someone low-ranked with enough free time could get their Playing Instrument higher just by turning on "repeat performance" option while standing in a tent.  Additionally, Musical Knowledge has a quest line where it gives back most of the AP you invested in it, giving you fairly massive Int boosts for very low AP costs.

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« Reply #664 on: July 27, 2012, 06:52:11 pm »

Yeah, from what I've seen, if you want to be a boon in a combat situation without being actually good at the combat, the bard is the way to go. The buffs are significant enough that people should be able to handle your share of the combat, and to be perfectly honest Discord is basically smash with less damage and a DoT/speed reduction. Which is a really nice combat skill for a "non combat" class.

Doubly so considering with all the Int most of the playing skills give, it'd make for a wonderful pair with magic, which is obviously another wonderful pair with the slowing enemies effect of discord.

I've really only looked at discord so far but yes.

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« Reply #665 on: July 27, 2012, 07:55:44 pm »

So silver ore. Anyone need it? I have 12 chunks that I can't do anything with because I am not a blacksmith or refiner.
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« Reply #666 on: July 27, 2012, 08:13:37 pm »

Huh, I might be a battle bard then. It's not like I have anything better to do with my character (other than potions Dx)...

I think even with a 2 second delay, buffing others would be doable.
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« Reply #667 on: July 27, 2012, 08:30:00 pm »

Yeah, as long as you let people know that fighting really won't work for you in general, I feel like they'd be willing to defend, because damn some of those buffs are niiiiice. Might not be viable in hard dungeons like peaca and later rundals but overall should be fine.

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« Reply #668 on: July 27, 2012, 08:47:21 pm »

Actually, the recovery buff is good for mages. So it's still viable in between fights.
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« Reply #669 on: July 28, 2012, 09:58:09 am »

So silver ore. Anyone need it? I have 12 chunks that I can't do anything with because I am not a blacksmith or refiner.

Silver is only useful as a finishing material if I recall correctly. Most people would prefer to buy ingots as well. Therefore, I would suggest you use your ore for refining purposes.
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« Reply #670 on: July 28, 2012, 03:46:46 pm »

Actually no.  Silver is used in several, probably most mid to high-range blacksmithing, including things like Broadswords.  It's gold and copper that are relatively worthless, with copper ingots only used in like one bad recipe and gold used in one or two.  But both make good finishing materials.

And most prefer to buy the ore.  Silver is annoying to harvest, so getting some smelting exp in along with blacksmithing is often worthwhile.

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« Reply #671 on: July 28, 2012, 04:34:58 pm »

Ok just realized that Great mallets are usable WITH a shield (for giants).
And i was running around without any shield.

Also i got refining but DAMN 26% chance of succes? And uses 5 ores for one try.
This is going to be hell. I just know it.
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« Reply #672 on: July 28, 2012, 04:43:25 pm »

Come to my homestead when you need to refine.  I've got a buffed furnace, so there's a bonus to success rates, and I can throw in some raincasting for added success rates.  You can get extra success rates from being in a party with others who have refining, and doing crafting on Monday.  We may very well begin some Monday crafting sessions, as people get more life skills, bard training, and raincasting, you can get some massive buffs to success rates and do a lot more production.

However, for refining you'll find comfort in failure soon enough.  It's the only skill where you actually have to fail to level up - success alone doesn't provide enough exp to make 100!  Using a Vales or Filia furnace will lower your success rate, as will lowering your dex, via titles or via booze.  I also have a second furnace in my homestead that is not buffed, so it has the same success rate as a Bangor furnace.

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« Reply #673 on: July 28, 2012, 04:50:56 pm »

So later on i will have to smelt while being drunk using a old potentially dangerous outdated furnace?
Dwarfy as heck.

Also where i can applly to a B12 guild? (there is one right?)
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« Reply #674 on: July 28, 2012, 04:58:44 pm »

Yeah, turns out a lot of Mabi is more dwarfy than it first appears.

There is a guild, but there is not yet a guild stone.  I'm taking personal applications though until we decide on a location for the stone.  So if you can find Laur in game, or suggest a good place to plant a stone, then we can get things moving.
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