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Voting closed: January 14, 2012, 06:17:21 pm

[Sonlirain]

I decided that my 2 day old giant warrior will have to learn metalurgy refining and blacksmithing before doing any serious combat.

And apparently to advance metalurgy i have to get to lvl 6 in exploration and talk to a cetain girl... but when i hit lvl 5 a "mandatory" exploration quest poped up on the other side of the continent.

Oh game you troll me so hard.

[Skyrunner]

Refining?

... Good luck; or rather, bad luck. YOU'L NEED IT D:
Stupid refining has stupid failure training xD Never ever rank up Production Mastery until you've become Refining 1. Unlike me, who already decided not to do refining :3

Also, if anyone here is actively blacksmithing or refining, I'd be amiable to learn and collect metallurgy metal scraps at a low cost of 100 gold per stack :3 Why 100 gold? Because I need to repair my tools, and besides just doing free labor is worse than getting at least 50 pence. Of course, it might be too expensive for many people >.> the many stacks' prices build up...

[Sonlirain]

Well currently i'm fiddling around with the homestead and have no idea where i'm supposed to get materials like bricks ETC.

Also, strawberry patch that dissabeared once harvested and took 2 HS stones with it.

[Seriyu]

Be sure to check the wiki in the OP, there's a lot of very nice info in there. And generally the stuff called "Kons" are "homestead experience" as it levels up, it'll get more stuff to build on it, etcetcetc. So the strawberry field probably didn't vanish, it just turned into Kons.

[Skyrunner]

Bricks are droppéd by monsters in Ciar, specifically goblins.Branches, nails, and other stuff is dropped by signs and lampposts. You need looming or something to get leather strips, which I'm not sure you need.
Your harvested strawberries disappeared, and gave you Kon, which is experience points for your homestead.
To get money from harvesting, pay 30k gold at a Taltien farm and spend many hours eachday for a week to get 100k~ in return. :3 It's not worth it imo especially with commerce now.

[Seriyu]

Building stones are dropped by uhhh, golems, and the end chest of ciar, actually. :p

Everything else is dead on though.

[majikero]

Actually, farming IS worth it if you have other things to do besides Mabinogi. Sure it might take 5 hours a day to use all 10 actions, but you can do other tings while waiting for the cool-down. Sure you can earn more by doing commerce in the same amount of time, but there's is the risk of bandits and the very dull travel. Also, commerce is only effective if you have a wagon or elephant and the newer players won't have those.

I just cashed in my crops from farming for a nice fat check of 180k. It was originally 190K but I had to make it a check which brought it down to 180k. Then I bought the Tioz armor for 100k, what great deal! It even has 5 more durability from it's base stat.......

Damn, I shouldn't walk around Channel 1 too much, I keep buying stuff....

[dei]

Oh hey, I think I saw moiya earlier this week, huh. I'll getcha added to the OP when I can.

I was on Moiya just yesterday. Short little elf with orange pigtails wearing a white and pink Tork's Blacksmith Suit and wielding a crossbow right? That's her. I'm probably going to work on her a bit later today after I do some stuff with Bijuni and Nidde.

Finally made it to rank E of Potionmaking. *looks at training*



..Shucks. Like rank F, but with more grinding.
I need herbs, my good Bay12ers! T^T
Also, I make 100 potions now for people who send'm. I'm now able to produce 100 potions of either mana, stamina, or health, with a 60% chance of success.

In other news, thanks Ibid! <3 With her help, I finally got a Clover Gnu, named it Smokingnu (reference? :3), and went power leveling with Seriyu. With his help I got level 25 in an hour. With luck, we'll get to 34 tomorrow, which means Smokingnu won't go below 50 Mana even as he ages.

Ancient monsters are the best. Ten times the experience with only say three times the HP.

I'm going to get a Clover Pig in a couple weeks just for the whole Potion Making bit. My plan was to gather enough herbs from her to plant patches of them in my homestead, so that I can get herbs and still rank Herbalism. Bijuni has been stuck at rF for two years now, seeing as I have terrible luck with finding Bloody and Sunlight herbs. Though, you'll want to level up your Clover Gnu until it's gained at least twelve MP by the time it's age five, otherwise you'll lose said twelve MP from their age-ups after that.

Then again, Clover Pigs will lose between fifteen to twenty MP from what I recall during the same time, so I've got a bit more to worry about when I finally get mine. Also, I like the Ancient mobs because of the gems they drop. I've got a spirit weapon on Bijuni, so I love getting my hands on some gemstones.

Be sure to check the wiki in the OP, there's a lot of very nice info in there. And generally the stuff called "Kons" are "homestead experience" as it levels up, it'll get more stuff to build on it, etcetcetc. So the strawberry field probably didn't vanish, it just turned into Kons.

This. The wiki is full of all of the information you will ever need for Mabinogi, including walkthroughs for the quests, battle tactics, and previews of things that haven't been released in the US yet. For example, in g17 we get things like Commerce Mastery as well as a Talent system that will revamp the Destiny system somewhat.

I decided that my 2 day old giant warrior will have to learn metalurgy refining and blacksmithing before doing any serious combat.

And apparently to advance metalurgy i have to get to lvl 6 in exploration and talk to a cetain girl... but when i hit lvl 5 a "mandatory" exploration quest poped up on the other side of the continent.

Oh game you troll me so hard.

Make sure to keep your Production Mastery low when you're learning refining, as from a certain point up until I think r5 you have to fail a lot in order to rank the skill up. Production Mastery just so happens to make crafting easier, so don't raise it any higher than maybe rC if you want to do some serious Refining.

Actually, farming IS worth it if you have other things to do besides Mabinogi. Sure it might take 5 hours a day to use all 10 actions, but you can do other tings while waiting for the cool-down. Sure you can earn more by doing commerce in the same amount of time, but there's is the risk of bandits and the very dull travel. Also, commerce is only effective if you have a wagon or elephant and the newer players won't have those.

I just cashed in my crops from farming for a nice fat check of 180k. It was originally 190K but I had to make it a check which brought it down to 180k. Then I bought the Tioz armor for 100k, what great deal! It even has 5 more durability from it's base stat.......

Damn, I shouldn't walk around Channel 1 too much, I keep buying stuff....

Honestly, I've considered putting the elf I don't play on as often in the farming areas in Taillteann just to act as my farmer and thus get a lot of gold for my other characters. Having an alt do your farming for you makes it so that you can spend more time on the characters that you wish to develop and then just check in periodically when your farmer needs to do some work again. I would recommend using the alarm system ingame to manage this though, or if you can find it use Erinn Timer.

[Girlinhat]

Bard Destiny?  Damn, I've been trying to get back into Mabi all week but distracted by Skyrim!  Luckily I rebirth at the end of the week so I might as well get into the fluting ways.

[Skyrunner]

@dei

I suggest you buy a Clove Gnu, not a Pig. The reasons are twofold.
One, Gnus have a net loss of 5 by the time they stop aging. If you don't level your Gnu with 35 mana at all, you'll end up with 25 mana. I think Pigs lose more.
Two, Gnus give Mandrakes while Pigs give Antidote herbs. Mandrakes are all-around useful and also crucial for many ranks in potioncraft, while Antidote herbs are used for maybe three ranks total, then ignored. What monster uses poison, anyways? :/



Seriyu, more and more people are getting on the Potion wagon itseems Dx
Also, no-one needs cheap ore? O.o

[majikero]

I need iron, mail it to me with the price. Not sure how mail transaction works though.

In-game name: Acolyte0

[dei]

@dei

I suggest you buy a Clove Gnu, not a Pig. The reasons are twofold.
One, Gnus have a net loss of 5 by the time they stop aging. If you don't level your Gnu with 35 mana at all, you'll end up with 25 mana. I think Pigs lose more.
Two, Gnus give Mandrakes while Pigs give Antidote herbs. Mandrakes are all-around useful and also crucial for many ranks in potioncraft, while Antidote herbs are used for maybe three ranks total, then ignored. What monster uses poison, anyways? :/



Seriyu, more and more people are getting on the Potion wagon itseems Dx
Also, no-one needs cheap ore? O.o

I was going to get a Clover Gnu eventually as well. I am on a fixed income so what little I can put towards this game usually goes towards something cheap and affordable so I can get the most bang for my buck. For whatever reason I was under the impression that the Clover Pig was cheaper, so do correct me if I'm wrong. I'm also wanting a Snowy Owl, so depending on how much I can spend come the first Monday of next month I may or may not take your advice then and there. It depends on what else I've planned on getting.

And I know about that little difference between the two pets. That's why I was planning on getting one at a time and then training that one so that the penalty would be offset by the amount of levels that they had gained. Though thanks for pointing it out again...

Also, I'm planning on eventually getting my giant Nidde into Refining, though that might not be until her next rebirth as I have a hard time gaining AP after around level 30. Bijuni and Nidde will be able to rebirth for free sometime in September, though I might be in the process of moving by that time.

And I'm sorry if I seem snarky with the first paragraph. It's just that I kind of felt like I was being treated like a noob. I'm not a noob, and I've got a fair bit of both the wiki and most of the game before the Shakespeare quests were released memorized. I'm sorry if I'm coming off as standoffish, as that's not what I'm meaning to.

I need iron, mail it to me with the price. Not sure how mail transaction works though.

In-game name: Acolyte0

The person mailing you the goods for sale must select a price when mailing them, and in order for you to open that package you must have that same amount of gold ready on your character.

[Girlinhat]

Actually no, you need the gold in the bank only - it won't use gold on your character.  I sold a few pure black dyes for millions, there's no way the buyer had that much on their character.

I fully endorse the Clover Gnu instead of the Clover Pig.  The pig is small, cute, and cheaper, but the gnu is larger and better suited for the task it's made for.  After aging it has significantly more MP, and it's inventory is smaller, 24 compared to 25 on the pig, but its inventory is more suited for herbs, 4*6 is room for 4*3=12 herb stacks, while the pig is 5*5 so it can only foot 5*2=10 herb stacks + 5 unused space.

Additionally, the gnu gains .75 MP on level up for two years whole the pig only gains .75 for one year (ie, weeks).  This means that the gnu has to gain fewer levels to gain more MP, and because of its age-up mana loss, it already has to gain fewer levels because it has more MP after aging anyways.  It costs 300 more NX - 30 cents - and does so much more.

And let's not forget that white herbs are pure gold.  They sell pretty stable, and if you have them then it means you won't be buying anyone else's herbs for when you need to repair your ego.

If you're going to spend money and get a pet, then you're getting a minimum $5 NX card.  With 5,000 NX you can get either the gnu or the pig, and you might as well go with the one who has more MP.

[alexwazer]

And let's not forget that white herbs are pure gold.  They sell pretty stable, and if you have them then it means you won't be buying anyone else's herbs for when you need to repair your ego.

That's the only good reason to take pig instead of the gnu. Gnu has 8% chance for white herb while the pig has 12% (at the cost of base hern too... just got in the field outside). 50% increase means a lot especially since it's the only really useful herb from pets that can't be grown in homestead (mandrake's not bad, but far from being essential). Although, I already have a pig, tons of white herbs sitting in bank and a handful of spirit repair potion already made. So I could provide them to anyone that needs some.


@Skyrunner

I also could use ore/fragment. I'm at refining r2 and slowly crawling my way to r1. Not sure what kind of metal majikero/Aco needs right now, so would be better to check with him for that first. I have very little use for iron and copper. Edit: Btw, that would be for Donryu

[SirAaronIII]

Is there any way to get stuff out of the premium right side of the bank after that free premium up to level 30 expires? I vaguely remember someone else being able to do it, but I'm not sure who or how.