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Voting closed: January 14, 2012, 06:17:21 pm

[Girlinhat]

Does any red dragon works? Because there's one in the secret mission in Tara. It would be much easier to do, but it does require to have completed G11.

Allegedly it counts.  And if anyone has finished G11, they can bring others, and the pass can be traded.  "Red Dragon inside the Shadow Realm" is the one.

[alexwazer]

Oh, I thought everyone had to have G11 completed.

Well then, we should totally do that this week-end. As often as required. The pass should not be too much trouble to get and a few of us have completed G11. On int difficulty, it's basically the same than Crumena, more or less, and we had no real issues fighting that one the last time with only 3 people.

[Girlinhat]

Agreed, should be easy.  Shadow Cast City seems to drop the pass and be the easiest one to run to harvest it - spamming Crash Shot and bringing along leechers should be fine.  More people means more end chests, means more opportunities for profit!

The thing we'll have to be careful about is finishing the dragon.  The general consensus on how to do it, is to put the party to 'anyone finish' and then everyone attack, until it gets to like 10%, then ONLY the one earning the kill should finish it.  If there's an annoying cutscene ending, then we'll have to do trickier rules.

[Seriyu]

I am very impressed that someone has already almost gotten fireball. Good work.

[Ibid Straydrink]

Agreed, should be easy.  Shadow Cast City seems to drop the pass and be the easiest one to run to harvest it - spamming Crash Shot and bringing along leechers should be fine.  More people means more end chests, means more opportunities for profit!

The thing we'll have to be careful about is finishing the dragon.  The general consensus on how to do it, is to put the party to 'anyone finish' and then everyone attack, until it gets to like 10%, then ONLY the one earning the kill should finish it.  If there's an annoying cutscene ending, then we'll have to do trickier rules.

Like I mentioned before, I already have one pass. It's yours.

I'm not sure what sort of field boss the red dragon stacks up as, but it sounds like we're going to have launch an all-out guild assault either way.

How do folks feel about Sunday?

[alexwazer]

Whenever would be fine for me, so does Sunday. However, I would understand if Girlinhat wants to try to finish her quest earlier so she can spend some time training it (with its 30 minutes cooldown) during the week-end. So I would be willing to go before Sunday and to go hunt passes if needed.

The red dragon is probably the most deadly of the field bosses, outside the black and white because of the massive amount of spawns with them, but the one from the secret SM is much weaker. On intermediate difficulty, it "only" has 50,000 HP, the same as Crumena. Like any red dragon, it remains quite dangerous because mainly of its rain of thunder attack and, for this mission, meteor shower could prove to be a pain if the area where the fight happens isn't very large. So we should expect a few deaths.

That being said, I'll spend most of my time playing my new character in the next few days/weeks. He is still not in the guild so getting in touch and organizing stuff isn't as easy, but feel free to send him a message if I'm online (reminder: Ryuseijin is the name). On a semi-related note, I just reached TNN part of G1, so if/when other people need to finish that, I'll be joining in the fun (despite what I said just 2-3 days ago to... was it Aeviternus?)

[Facekillz058]

Looks like we might be able to put together a group entirely composed of people who actually need the finale done, instead of getting someone to run us,

[Girlinhat]

I'm not sure what sort of field boss the red dragon stacks up as, but it sounds like we're going to have launch an all-out guild assault either way.

In terms of sheer damage, the wiki claims it's one of the toughest.  The shadow mission version is toned down, but the field boss can one-shot nearly anyone.  If you plan to survive the fight, bring PLENTY of health potions - as long as you're above 50% HP, any single attack will only send you Deadly.  If you're going for "soft survival" (aka "stand up right here) then don't wear any clothing, you'll just waste the blessings and drop them.  Don't wait for revivals either, it's better to just get back up and keep going.

Smash and Int Magic seem to be the key to successful damage, as well as general demigod skills or things like final hit.  You basically need to bring out ALL your DPS and none of your tank - it's going to ruin you in one hit, don't try to tank it, just try to kill it before you die too often!

We had maybe 15 people defeat it last night, with demigod help and snap cast.  Dropping r1 fireballs and spear of god was productive.

[Singularity125]

Hm, interesting... this might pull me back for a bit. Although, I have a very long way to go before I could cast those advanced skills, and I mostly want to use magic for support... spell walk and snap cast would be very nice though. So, I'm a bit confused, is it necessary to have a paid rebirth to use these features, or not? Getting mixed messages from the wiki on this.

[majikero]

Using hero/ace card only grants you the talent which doubles the exp training for those skills. You can still get them without paying buy thats a long ways off unless you use the card.

[Girlinhat]

Paying will get you the skills immediately and give you 2x training rate.

Free will allow you to go through the prerequisites and quests to obtain them.

ALSO someone has confirmed the saga dragon counts for Meteor.  I've also got TWO (2) Red Dragon Inside Shadow Realm passes, Hard mode.  I can run one with the guild for sure to unlock my meteor, and if anyone else needs a red dragon kill I've got an extra.

[alexwazer]

I'm not quite sure we could handle hard difficulty. Well, we could handle it, but maybe not within the 60 minutes limit. Although I would still be willing to give it a try if we get enough people. I would say 4 or 5 people would be the minimum to stand a chance and we barely have that much active people that can enter hard difficulty SMs.


After playing around some more, I've really started liking playing fighter/mage hybrid, especially with mana knuckles (these things are kinda OP seriously...) It allows for some interesting twists and combos, like charging strike + blaze or using shockwave as an instant multi counter.

I've completed the green gem and black orb dungeons this morning, so I'm now ready for finale anytime. I can and will still help whoever needs gem/orb.

[Girlinhat]

I expect I'll be the one pulling most of the mission weight.  Packing enormous MP pots, fireball, and my recently acquired Master of Fire title, I can clear pretty much anything if given time to charge - and back this up with some snap casting!  I'd need others around mainly to provide interference from certain stragglers and cleaning up the few that fireball doesn't destroy.

This is basically a call for people to defend the mage and then collect reward chests!

[Singularity125]

Hm. I think I'll be playing this some today, especially since I'll be able to free rebirth this afternoon. Provided I don't ragequit on Baol Infiltration (UGH) I should be able to get to G3 Final tonight. Anyone willing to help keep me from hopelessly exploding?

Edit: Well, that could have been worse... I'm up to G3 final now. Would be awesome if people were willing to help out either tonight or tomorrow. I'll probably be in and out of game, not having much to do until then.

[Tyler6498]

What exactly is the guild name? Been meaning to join up.