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Author Topic: Mabinogi-On Steam! Close combat revamp!  (Read 380256 times)

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« Reply #3180 on: October 24, 2013, 10:29:28 am »

One is in Dunby, near Eavan. The other is in Belvast, facing the general shop NPC which could be nameless for all I care.

I guess I might as well link to the wiki page too.
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« Reply #3181 on: October 24, 2013, 10:42:39 am »

A larger link to the Halloween Cursed Labyrinth event for those who haven’t checked the wiki yet.

The Labyrinth event is interesting.  I’d say that it’s pretty good but I guess that would depend on your expectation to be rewarded with good items instead of just receiving Halloween campfire kits.  At a full 8 members in a party 4 of the reward chests will Fine, 2 will be Average, and 2 Poor.  Still, all of the rewards I’ve gotten and most of what people say they get have been campfire kits with a few skulls and lanterns thrown in.  One person may have scored a wig or dress in the 6 that I ran last night, if everyone was being truthful.

You get 3 tickets per character per day so there should be plenty of time to grind the event in a full party and get something decent.  You’ll also get a character medal for each character you RP as during the event.  My following experiences on the characters I’ve played:

Don Quixote: A pretty powerful lancer.  You have a strong regular attack, strong windmill, and good lance charge.  No real magic but you may be able to heal.  A strong melee and you could be much worse off.

Halloween Imp: Melee with basic bolt spells.  Not a very good character but it’s better than the Mabinogi Manager.  You’re very short and that threw me off a bit with the change in camera.

Halloween Millia: I’m guess she’s a better character but I’m not used to playing advanced characters and I ran her on my second go so I still had no clue what was going on.  Melee and magic with some advanced spells if I remember correctly.

Halloween Mabinogi Manager: A joke character.  There may be some hidden potential here if you’re an experienced player but otherwise you’re a complete joke.  You have only melee skills, a weapon that seems to do little damage, and little or no practical magic.  I think you get healing but no offensive spells.

Halloween Talarch: Some melee and a descent bolt mage.  With fully charged bolts you can likely do descent damage but you won’t be very fast to clear rooms of enemies.  You wear the Halloween premium skeleton pajama outfit so not much to be excited about.

Vamprire Hunter Female: A gunner, which this was my first time playing.  You get those upgraded mana bullets which do better damage so that’s a plus.  I’d say the skills are good but I have no real clue.  I managed to be in the first pair to reach the chests so that was nice.

I know organization is hard with differing schedules, timezones, and levels of activity but it would be nice to try and get a few 8 member parties going this weekend.  Even if we can only fill a partial group we could always pickup spares at the event coach.  You’re better off running the event with 8 people in the hopes of getting the best rewards even if they’re few and far between.  From what I’ve heard you can’t trade passes or medals earned so that leaves out having a few active members collecting for everyone else.

For the lottery, I’d be willing to contribute.  Seeds and holy water are pretty much free with minimal effort at the right time so item contributions may have to be capped if they start becoming the norm.  I can’t think of a winner receiving 5 stacks of holy water and 10 bags of seeds being very happy about the space required to store their winnings.
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« Reply #3182 on: October 24, 2013, 02:57:19 pm »

So, ever since the patch yesterday I have been lagging half to death. The probably seems less related to latency and more to my computers specs- just walking around in Uladh is choppy, and while Iria and homesteads are fine, attempting a Saga with numerous NPCs quickly makes things worse.

With any luck, I will be able to go out and buy a new GPU and/or CPU late this weekend or early next week. Until then, I'm on hiatus.  :'(
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« Reply #3183 on: October 24, 2013, 07:55:26 pm »

I forgot to mention that earlier, but this update also added a new daily quest system (mostly gathering quests) and 2 new seals merchant. Now every daily quest (including SM and saga EP) gives 1 adventurer seal. These seals can be traded for various items.

Some people showed up yesterday and saw what these merchants were offering, but apparently they sell different things every day of the week. Wednesday they were selling weapons, Thursday they are selling ES and Enchant Expiration Removal Scroll (yes, it does exactly what you think it does!). I can't wait to see what else they are offering.
These seal merchants are officially the best. The BEST. They offer...
Mondays: life skill materials (leather worries are somewhat alleviated)
Tuesdays: exploration exp items (give a ton of exp, 450k on the cheapest, but also cost a lot of seals)
Fridays: marionettes/associated items/potions (not really as important but cool because it offers another way of getting those minis besides gachas)
Saturdays: armor/clothes on Saturdays (looks like fashion items, could change from the current doctor/nurse stuff, as well as "Royal Knight" stuff which IIRC has better stats than normal heavy armor and also looks okay IMO here have some people talking about it)
...and most importantly of all...
Sundays: Skill Training Seals (come in 5% and 15% varieties, for 25/70 each). This could be just what we need to get ourselves a little boost in our life skills, combined with Monday's mats. And by little, I mean "get past rE enchant/other stuff".

e: Next we should look into seeing which dailies give out these wondrous seals.
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« Reply #3184 on: October 24, 2013, 08:29:15 pm »

Farmable beam swords? What blasphemy is this?! I thought they would let those die already.

Puppet minis Yayification! But the real prize is that 15 skill exp.
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« Reply #3185 on: October 24, 2013, 09:39:22 pm »

Skill seals are a thing now?  Fuck yeah time to master me some shit!  I could also go for a mega beam sword, because elven melee.

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« Reply #3186 on: October 24, 2013, 09:40:31 pm »

Sadly, I don't think training seals can be used on r1 skills. But they'll be a huge help getting there.
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« Reply #3187 on: October 24, 2013, 09:45:35 pm »

You can probably rake in 20 seals a day if your dedicated enough but I'll be pretty content with 5 a day. It's a nice break from doing the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over......... and over again for ranking those life skills.
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« Reply #3188 on: October 25, 2013, 12:53:17 am »

Skill seals are a thing now?  Fuck yeah time to master me some shit!  I could also go for a mega beam sword, because elven melee.

I've got some lying around. You're welcome to them- you can barely sell the things anymore.
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« Reply #3189 on: October 25, 2013, 06:19:35 am »

With the new seals introduced, I've decided to go hunt daily quests. The first one I went for was the dungeon run from Eavan. Of course, Mabi RNG being the jerk that it is, it gave me Peaca dungeon... I hate you too RNG.

Call me crazy, but I refused to let that silly RNG have the last laugh, so I went and tried a solo Peaca run. There's nothing to lose in trying, except my life (multiple times), my sanity and a few hours. And thus, so started my journey with my own one man party.

Spoiler: clicky for full size (click to show/hide)

Surprisingly enough, I survived through the first floor. Well, if you don't count the three deaths that is.

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But after this painful first hour, I started to reconsider. What's the point of even going through with this? 2 adventurer seals? I can get more than that doing other dailies. Experience or gold? That probably won't even cover the lost experience from dying or the repair cost. Bragging right? Well, now that's something to consider... bragging rights are the most important thing in gaming (just kidding, it comes second to seeing increasingly bigger numbers). With such an important reward awaiting me, I had to push forward and so I did.

Finally, after exactly 4h30 (based on screenshots creation time) I met the demi lich and helped him find peace at last. This is another case of a boss being a pushover compared to the dungeon in which it resides.

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In the end, victory was mine. I died a total of 7 times, used 6 nao stones (revived at statue once), used almost 1000 arrows and wasted a night. I can now rightfully brag about soloing Peaca! Was it worth it? It terms of reward, obviously not. However, the thrill and excitement I got out of this more than makes up for everything. I haven't been so thrilled running a dungeon since I was a naive 30 total level inept warrior.



This wouldn't be a proper post unless I bring something that's completely unrelated to the previous part, so here it is. Following the Fjallheim Reserve idea from Ibid, I thought it would be nice to organize weekly guild funding activities. This could be just about anything: running some shadow missions, dungeons or simply making a commerce convoy for a while. The gold earned during these activities would go into a guild bank/reserve that could be used to help members. For example, it could be used to buy a skill book page for someone that can afford it, to buy a glowing statue to do a Karu run or to buy manuals or patterns so that crafters can make gear for people who need them.

Personally, I'm too lazy to spend time making money. I always get distracted by other things. So I never really reach a point where I feel like I can donate to the guild. This would allow me to help without having to get bored doing stuff on my own.


Also, Nexon release a FAQ for the daily quest system including every opportunities available to collect seals and all items available for trade. This also confirm that it was a mistake on Wiki concerning finest silk/firewood; they come in stack of 10 like others.
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« Reply #3190 on: October 25, 2013, 07:35:51 am »

About gold: If you run daily shadow missions on Hard, you can EASILY make more money than you burn durability.  I haven't touched my bank in a long while, as I do SM and use the funding to repair my hermit's and get upgrades.  I'm also burning some gold on armor upgrades, which are about 25,000 right now, and the hermit's staff still needs a few dozen thousand.  After that, I just toss gold to the bank 50k at a time and save up to buy something fun, like the next new staff or a fashion dress.

And, the guild actually has a bank.  You can deposit gold into the guild stone, and once you hit a certain amount of gold the leader can make a budgeting request to withdraw gold, minimum 1mil withdrawn.  This may actually be a problem for us, as I believe you need something like 50% player vote to pass a withdraw request, and many of our players are permanently inactive.

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« Reply #3191 on: October 25, 2013, 06:32:32 pm »

Yeah, but the point isn't to get more gold for myself, it's exactly the opposite. I haven't run into gold problem for quite a while, but I never have "too much". So, helping guildies with gold issues isn't really an option I normally consider. That's why I'm suggesting organizing guild funding activities. I could just as well do that on my own, but it would get boring and feel rather pointless when most of the hard to get items that are worth buying usually cost over a million. That's not something I can achieve within a few days on my own without boring myself out to death.
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« Reply #3192 on: October 25, 2013, 07:45:47 pm »

I would be up to throwing in 100k gold or so, but I am concerned about it being difficult to pull the money back out. Perhaps I can help someone on a personal basis if they need a bit of cash, though. Also, I plan to be on for the "Hot Time" event tomorrow night. Maybe we can organize an 8-man group then? :)
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« Reply #3193 on: October 25, 2013, 08:55:20 pm »

Reading up on the Guild budget on the wiki makes me think it doesn’t seem like it would be proper for a reserve.  If most of the membership is currently inactive, and not likely to return, then any money in the guild bank is likely stuck there.  If we had a Guild Treasurer, someone who could be trusted to hold the money without risk of spending it, it would be easier to get things done for a raffle or reserve.  I’m guessing that would be Ibid but activity seems like it could be a problem in the near future if performance/lag are hindering our glorious leader.  It would seem just helping individual members to the best of your ability would be the best thing to do right now.

As for the Halloween event, grouping up after the hot-time event would be nice.  It gives everyone a concrete time to shoot for and any latecomers may be able to pickup a group with other stragglers or those willing to do multiple runs.  It seems like the Event Quest for the Labyrinth refreshes every day and one of the rewards is a 5 AP potion.  Even if you hate the event or Halloween getting 5 AP isn’t too bad for one run though. 
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« Reply #3194 on: October 26, 2013, 04:45:55 am »

I would like to point out that the new daily exploration quests are really worth doing. Along with the usual seal, they reward you with 9000 (rafting and hot-air ballooning) and 7000 (ruins discovery) exploration experiences. For reference, a 50+ stars hot-air ballooning ride only gives 4200, which you can still get on top of the daily quest bonus. I'll be doing runs of both on a relatively frequent basis, so anyone is free to come along. I would appreciate if someone could give a ride once in a while to my alchemist since he wouldn't be getting anywhere with rafting on his own (firebolt r1, so should be fine for wyverns).

Today is rebirth day for a few people, so this would be a good time to do that.

Edit: Also, it's Saturday and thus clothing day in the seal shop. I was able to get my first glimpse at the royal knight armor and it's... awesome. Can be worn by elves, has insanely good stats (even before upgrades) and looks great. So there goes my life for the next 60 or so day while I work on getting that on all three of my characters.
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