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Author Topic: Mabinogi-On Steam! Close combat revamp!  (Read 380836 times)

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Re: Mabinogi-On Steam! HOLY SHIT DRAGON RAID (Page 139)
« Reply #2190 on: July 04, 2013, 12:42:22 am »

Actually, its only Millitians, aka the players, who can't die. The local residents on the other hand still dies like normal.
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Re: Mabinogi-On Steam! HOLY SHIT DRAGON RAID (Page 139)
« Reply #2191 on: July 04, 2013, 12:54:26 am »

In a way, Mabinogi's lack of scary says a lot to the game and the setting.  It's interesting that in Errin you cannot die, you simply wake up later.  And you search for Paradise in G1, ending in in Tir Na Nog and realizing it's a wasteland, then Vindictus seems to be a prequel or parallel universe of sorts, where they seek the promised land, either implied or stated to be Errin...

It's a land of plenty, resources are in ridiculous abundance, where you cannot die, cannot starve, and jobs are available at any town at short notice... and yet you still search for something better?

Vindictus is the prequel. It's in... well, yeah. G1 will let you know. Vindictus is NOT a happy setting. At all.

Milletains are only immortal because their souls are disconnected and float in the Soul Stream, so they just hop into a new body when they die.

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Re: Mabinogi-On Steam! HOLY SHIT DRAGON RAID (Page 139)
« Reply #2192 on: July 04, 2013, 01:19:45 am »

It wasn't aimed at anyone in particular, but it sure didn't have the same audience as the ones for Vindictus.

The chief art designer of Mabinogi (who has now resigned) said in an interview that his goal was to make a world that wasn't scary. That's why even the darkest dungeons aren't scary in terms of aesthetics.

Huh, now that I think about it that makes sense, given it was devcat's first game. Interesting on the art direction note too, I'd say he succeeded very well.

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Re: Mabinogi-On Steam! HOLY SHIT DRAGON RAID (Page 139)
« Reply #2193 on: July 04, 2013, 01:24:07 am »

In a way, Mabinogi's lack of scary says a lot to the game and the setting.  It's interesting that in Errin you cannot die, you simply wake up later.  And you search for Paradise in G1, ending in in Tir Na Nog and realizing it's a wasteland, then Vindictus seems to be a prequel or parallel universe of sorts, where they seek the promised land, either implied or stated to be Errin...

It's a land of plenty, resources are in ridiculous abundance, where you cannot die, cannot starve, and jobs are available at any town at short notice... and yet you still search for something better?

Vindictus is the prequel. It's in... well, yeah. G1 will let you know. Vindictus is NOT a happy setting. At all.

Milletains are only immortal because their souls are disconnected and float in the Soul Stream, so they just hop into a new body when they die.

Unless they earn the ire of a deity, who may as a consequence violently "shuck" them from their husks. :P


One note on offensively bright colors: somewhere under Options (the large button on the bottom left) -> Video, you can chose a something-filter, which gives the game a "movie screen" look. This end result is a rather "grittier" picture.

I am not sure, however, if it is checked or not by default.
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Re: Mabinogi-On Steam! HOLY SHIT DRAGON RAID (Page 139)
« Reply #2194 on: July 04, 2013, 01:51:45 am »

Strangely, what you can see of the story until ~lv 36 in Vindictus has little mention of finding a paradise.
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Re: Mabinogi-On Steam! HOLY SHIT DRAGON RAID (Page 139)
« Reply #2195 on: July 04, 2013, 02:29:43 am »

Strangely, what you can see of the story until ~lv 36 in Vindictus has little mention of finding a paradise.

It's not a thing the common people are too focused on. It's mostly the Pontiff's Court, the early story of Vindictus is about the Crimson Blades, after all. They're just concerned with making a living, not looking for some fabled paradise.

Looming war with the Fomors is far more pressing.

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Re: Mabinogi-On Steam! HOLY SHIT DRAGON RAID (Page 139)
« Reply #2196 on: July 04, 2013, 06:27:50 am »

Just finished a wonderfully strenuous, failed attempt at soloing the G9 Shadow Expeditionary Force on Hard. I have to say, the fact that I am cumulative 1200+ and have been this much time and energy into gear and cannot skip through a generation alone is extremely off-putting and painfully counter-intuitive; if the challenge is going to scale according to your abilities, why hone them beyond a certain point at all?

At any rate, I reckon I am going to need some well-equipped health. I've managed to burn through 20 Nao Stones, all of my health potions, and the better part of my temper. At this point I'm almost inclined to skip the whole thing, but the reward is too great to pass up.
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Re: Mabinogi-On Steam! HOLY SHIT DRAGON RAID (Page 139)
« Reply #2197 on: July 04, 2013, 06:34:17 am »

Once you are over lv1000, it's near impossible to solo shadow missions.
Mabi's idea of 'scaling' is 'buff HP, defense, crit chance, and protection to rediculous amounts but change nothing else'. I think only some very op builds can solo, like maybe Ice Spear master with a casting time reduction wand and mana elixers. >_>
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Re: Mabinogi-On Steam! HOLY SHIT DRAGON RAID (Page 139)
« Reply #2198 on: July 04, 2013, 06:41:37 am »

Once you are over lv1000, it's near impossible to solo shadow missions.
Mabi's idea of 'scaling' is 'buff HP, defense, crit chance, and protection to rediculous amounts but change nothing else'. I think only some very op builds can solo, like maybe Ice Spear master with a casting time reduction wand and mana elixers. >_>

Do not worry, and rest assured- when the Regime has triumphed, we will march on Nexon, and then DEVcat- and all of Erinn's history will be rewritten! :D

Until then, I just need a hand finishing the last three quests standing between me and demigodhood.
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Re: Mabinogi-On Steam! HOLY SHIT DRAGON RAID (Page 139)
« Reply #2199 on: July 04, 2013, 08:18:36 am »

I will gladly help once I have free time on friday on during the week-end. I remember the Glas fight, even on advanced it was quite painful, so on hard...
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Re: Mabinogi-On Steam! HOLY SHIT DRAGON RAID (Page 139)
« Reply #2200 on: July 04, 2013, 09:52:17 am »

Actually, the new scaling system is talent based. I think the you need Expert level talent to get Hard difficulty.
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Re: Mabinogi-On Steam! HOLY SHIT DRAGON RAID (Page 139)
« Reply #2201 on: July 04, 2013, 10:14:02 am »

Incidentally, i wonder how no-one expresses surprise at me suddenly responding to someone calling for me... xD I was disappear for a long time on this thread.
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Re: Mabinogi-On Steam! HOLY SHIT DRAGON RAID (Page 139)
« Reply #2202 on: July 04, 2013, 10:32:45 am »

Mostly everyone disappeared for a long time in this thread.
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Re: Mabinogi-On Steam! HOLY SHIT DRAGON RAID (Page 139)
« Reply #2203 on: July 04, 2013, 11:03:49 am »

Yup. It's a game you play... then suddenly stop.
Only to return to it after 6+ months.
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Re: Mabinogi-On Steam! HOLY SHIT DRAGON RAID (Page 139)
« Reply #2204 on: July 04, 2013, 11:17:29 am »

Yup. It's a game you play... then suddenly stop.
Only to return to it after 6+ months.

Yeah that sound about right to be honest. Mabinogi is fun, but I get burnt out of it after a point.
Then I always come crawling back...
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