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Author Topic: Mabinogi-On Steam! Close combat revamp!  (Read 380885 times)

Ibid Straydrink

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Re: Mabinogi-On Steam! HOLY SHIT DRAGON RAID (Page 139)
« Reply #2130 on: June 29, 2013, 10:17:10 pm »

I can attest. Commerce is the way to go when you need money.

Assuming you have an elephant then marble/topaz is the thing you want to ship.

Otherwise it's seaweed and baby pills.

A Wagon is pretty good too. But until you get a Wagon, Commerce is REALLY boring. And slow.

LIES! HERSESY! COMMERCE IS THE ONE TRUE... mini-game? Side quest? Feature? Korean gaming appendix?


Well, no matter what it is, if you ever need an escort, you need only ask. I wouldn't mind tagging along on horse back, as long as you promise to trigger to plenty of encounters.  8)


Update! I seem to have accrued a few extra bonus titles from the Strange Cat Gacha, and would prefer to hand them out to guildies rather than sell them for fractions of a peanut in funny-money. Send me a message in-game, first-come-first-served.
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Re: Mabinogi-On Steam! HOLY SHIT DRAGON RAID (Page 139)
« Reply #2131 on: June 29, 2013, 10:27:53 pm »

I can attest. Commerce is the way to go when you need money.

Assuming you have an elephant then marble/topaz is the thing you want to ship.

Otherwise it's seaweed and baby pills.

A Wagon is pretty good too. But until you get a Wagon, Commerce is REALLY boring. And slow.

LIES! HERSESY! COMMERCE IS THE ONE TRUE... mini-game? Side quest? Feature? Korean gaming appendix?


Well, no matter what it is, if you ever need an escort, you need only ask. I wouldn't mind tagging along on horse back, as long as you promise to trigger to plenty of encounters.  8)


Update! I seem to have accrued a few extra bonus titles from the Strange Cat Gacha, and would prefer to hand them out to guildies rather than sell them for fractions of a peanut in funny-money. Send me a message in-game, first-come-first-served.

I didn't say it's not fun, but it IS pretty slow until you get that Wagon!

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Re: Mabinogi-On Steam! HOLY SHIT DRAGON RAID (Page 139)
« Reply #2132 on: June 29, 2013, 10:28:09 pm »

Also, I've still got a spreadsheet worked up to figure the profit of different goods and if you should take a wagon or elephant.  Very few goods are actually worth taking a wagon on, the vast majority store more in an elephant.

Did you account for movement speed though?
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Re: Mabinogi-On Steam! HOLY SHIT DRAGON RAID (Page 139)
« Reply #2133 on: June 29, 2013, 11:23:07 pm »

Also, I've still got a spreadsheet worked up to figure the profit of different goods and if you should take a wagon or elephant.  Very few goods are actually worth taking a wagon on, the vast majority store more in an elephant.

Did you account for movement speed though?
There's a difference in movement speed, but it's not fantastic, and for most items you want the biggest single-load value AND that turns out to be better than "gold per minute" rating.

To really get a handle on the "gold per minute" figure, you'd actually have to figure out how long it takes to reach each location from each other location, and variables to routes (some are faster, but more dangerous and not used) and natural sway to how you click the map compared to others or if you spend time idling briefly.

Even if we don't know the speed, I have the numbers for profit on the last time I was calculating, however many months ago.
Topaz was +163 per unit in profit.  A wagon can carry 36 and an elephant can carry 68.  The profits for each were ~68k and ~128k.  I really doubt the cart moves at 180% speed.
For the most part, items are clearly better on wagon or on elephant - namely, low-tier items (coal) go on wagons, but high-tier items (topaz, ore, etc.) go on elephant.  The nearest questionable items are Ginseng from Tir, Music Boxes from Taillteann, animal products from Emain, and oysters from Cobh.  All of these fit 300 to the wagon and 350 to the elephant, which is 116% - the cart MAY go faster than this, but this is really the closest margin.  The rest are at LEAST 140% with most in the 168-180% range of difference.  (For items that are better on the elephant, at least.  I didn't count items that are better on the wagon because that'd be pointless!)

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Re: Mabinogi-On Steam! HOLY SHIT DRAGON RAID (Page 139)
« Reply #2134 on: June 30, 2013, 12:05:45 am »

Ugh. Has anybody encountered the problem where you seem to repeatedly get DC'd within seconds of logging on?
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Re: Mabinogi-On Steam! HOLY SHIT DRAGON RAID (Page 139)
« Reply #2135 on: June 30, 2013, 03:03:31 am »

Some items can actually fit MORE onto the wagon than the elephant; namely, the limited-stock item from Taillteann, the Alchemy Crystal. I haven't bothered to purchase an elephant solely because of those crystals.
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Re: Mabinogi-On Steam! HOLY SHIT DRAGON RAID (Page 139)
« Reply #2136 on: June 30, 2013, 06:34:43 am »

IT'S SHORUKE O_O HI there!
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Re: Mabinogi-On Steam! HOLY SHIT DRAGON RAID (Page 139)
« Reply #2137 on: June 30, 2013, 07:00:45 am »

Recent B12 applications have been approved, along with an outsider but old friend (Abben). Sleep sounds... good...


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Re: Mabinogi-On Steam! HOLY SHIT DRAGON RAID (Page 139)
« Reply #2138 on: June 30, 2013, 11:14:02 am »

I think i'll get back into mabi but...

How do you link your account with steam?
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Re: Mabinogi-On Steam! HOLY SHIT DRAGON RAID (Page 139)
« Reply #2139 on: June 30, 2013, 12:33:44 pm »

If it's like DFO (:'(), you download it through Steam, run it, and it'll ask you for a Nexon ID and password. And then you enter it and that's that.
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Re: Mabinogi-On Steam! HOLY SHIT DRAGON RAID (Page 139)
« Reply #2140 on: June 30, 2013, 12:38:21 pm »

But beware! Valve is the Devil- all of history has attested to this!  >:(
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Re: Mabinogi-On Steam! HOLY SHIT DRAGON RAID (Page 139)
« Reply #2141 on: June 30, 2013, 12:52:07 pm »

Yeah but i don't have it in my game library.
Do i have to link it manually or something?
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Re: Mabinogi-On Steam! HOLY SHIT DRAGON RAID (Page 139)
« Reply #2143 on: June 30, 2013, 12:59:33 pm »

I already downloaded it through steam... it did it "stealthly" without even showing the download progress.
Now it's in my steamapps folder but still not in the library.
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Re: Mabinogi-On Steam! HOLY SHIT DRAGON RAID (Page 139)
« Reply #2144 on: June 30, 2013, 02:05:56 pm »

Restart Steam?
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