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Voting closed: January 14, 2012, 06:17:21 pm

[SirAaronIII]

Also, are there any archers in the house? Like, with a good connection? We could use more archers. Never enough archer.

[Myroc]

Alright, this game has piqued my interest, so I decided to resurrect my old Nexon account and give this a try. I downloaded the game (sans Pando Media Booster, because it deserves to face suffering for a thousand eternities) and installed it, but I can't start it. The exectuable only opens the main site, and clicking the large "play" button on the site only prompts me to download the game... WITH Pando Media Booster. : |

Any ideas?

[Skyrunner]

It's not an executable, it's a shortcut.

Navigate to [drive]:\Nexon\Mabinogi\Mabinogi.exe.

Run it.

That's the hidden, non-website way of going into Mabinogi. It's actually what the shortcut is supposed to be, but the NA Nexon changed it.

[Myroc]

That worked splendidly, many thanks.

[Girlinhat]

Also, uninstall Pando.  It's basically a torrent machine and will suck your bandwidth.

[Aklyon]

A torrent machine that isn't useful for anything you'd actually want to use torrents for at that.

[Graknorke]

So what does it actually do?
Just curious.

[Girlinhat]

Nexon doesn't really let people download the game.  Instead, Pando torrents it off your machine and Nexon only picks up the slack when there's not enough Pando out there to supply it.  So every time someone starts downloading or patching the game, it consumes your bandwidth, instead of consuming Nexon's download server bandwidth.

I believe that Pando activated with the launcher, so if you boot up and don't run Mabi, it's fine.  But as soon as you do, Pando comes on, and stays on until you kill the program or shut down your PC.  It's also a "daemon" - it has no task icon visible to the user, so you have to ctrl-shift-escape task manager to kill the task.

Nexon is really a dick about networking load.  Between Pando and Naggle, the game as unplayable.  As soon as you fix their massive glaring fuckups, it's pretty good.

[Aklyon]

I didn't do a thing to Nagle, nor get Pando yet again. My ping/fps/lag is fine and playable.

[Girlinhat]

Then look into both.  I was the same way, and then I was like "Wait, I could be playing it like THIS?!"

[Aklyon]

I could, but I don't want to mess with networking registry settings when my laptop is the only one here that can play games without stalling to death. Too much downside for one game.

[Girlinhat]

It didn't bother me at all, but that's understandable.

On the other hand, Pando is a clean uninstall via the "Add/Remove Programs" located in the control panel.

[Seriyu]

Yeah I can really say disconnecting nagle didn't have any issues and didn't cause anythng negative to happen on the machine. In fact I think most MMOs disconnect nagle naturally, this one just forgot to do that. Or maybe it was made in such a way that it didn't need to have it disconnected, at least in korea. But then it came to the US and oh shit population density is way different and it works a hell of a lot worse.

Buuuut it's up to you. Just throwing my two cents in. Also the nagle algorithm fix is in the OP for anyone that was like "wait what nagle?"

[SirAaronIII]

I disabled Nagle and now cyber criminals are thugging my identity and credit cards. Don't be like me kids!!


Just kidding I'm okay, contrary to what Norton keeps telling me.

[Seriyu]

Well, to be fair if you were running off (VERY) limited bandwith you'd be using more bandwith with nagle off, and it might become an issue. But the amount added is fairly inconsequential.

Anyway.