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[GreatWyrmGold]

Oh.

Nope. It was specifically stated to be running out of video memory.

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Armokdammit.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

So I've been thinking. Chryssalids. Love em, but during late game they stop being scary. They need something...more. There should be an Elite Chryssalid. Thoughts? I've mostly only been able to come up with ideas for the Elite Zombie (grows chitinous plates, can cocoon at low health to raise the odds of a successful hatching, can produce a normal Chryssalid even if killed). Unfortunately, I don't have much for the Elite Chryssalid itself. They're insectoid, so...wings? Explosive death?

The other missing niche is Elite Thinmen, but that one is obvious (Snakemen).

[GreatWyrmGold]

Cyber cryssalids?

[My Name is Immaterial]

Something like this would be best thing.

[Culise]

Cyber cryssalids?

Chryssalid + Floater = ♥

Though you'd have to make it able to move again after flying. 

[Lightningfalcon]

So I've been thinking. Chryssalids. Love em, but during late game they stop being scary. They need something...more. There should be an Elite Chryssalid. Thoughts? I've mostly only been able to come up with ideas for the Elite Zombie (grows chitinous plates, can cocoon at low health to raise the odds of a successful hatching, can produce a normal Chryssalid even if killed). Unfortunately, I don't have much for the Elite Chryssalid itself. They're insectoid, so...wings? Explosive death?

The other missing niche is Elite Thinmen, but that one is obvious (Snakemen).

I don't know why you are having such a hard time coming up with upgrades for them.   Just go to sleep after playing nothing but snakeman terror missions for three hours.   You'll get ideas. 

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Make them like the old ones, but worse.    If ANY of your soldiers can see it, and you don't kill it in that turn, someone will die.   Zombies are created instantly.    They can attack twice in one turn.   They have a natural resistance to explosions, so a rocket won't just kill a group of them, and will merely make them angry.   Give them the ability that berserkers have, where they move closer if they are fired on.  But also give them the ability to attack with that, so if your assault shoots one that is right next to it, and fails in killing it, he get's turned into a zombie.    Give them their own form of mimetic skin.  If they have this they aren't even triggered by your movement.   One moment you are fighting the alliums as normal, and suddenly a chyrsallid pops our from the building he was hiding next to and kills your two assaults.  You then open fire, but the zombies merely turn into new chysallids, who have a full turn to attack you.   

[EnigmaticHat]

I don't really like newcom cryssalids.  The oldcom threat of turning civilians into a horde of enemies made a lot more sense when they had to physically walk up and murder them.  Now an unrevealed pack can kill civilians anywhere on the map.  And all the fights involving them boil down to whether you have enough firepower to kill them in a single turn or not which is boring.

So I'm happy with where they are now, menacing and repulsive but not terribly dangerous in terms of gameplay.

[Mech#4]

Something like this would be best thing.

Hopefully more thrilling though, that movie was rather boring, can't even remember much of it.

I'd like if the chryssalids had things like air-ducts to move through, or they could break down thin walls at the cost of half their movement. Walking up walls and on ceilings?

Maybe the aliens could send them in like the headcrab capsules. Launching them in from afar onto random spots on the map.

[Lightningfalcon]

Something like this would be best thing.

Hopefully more thrilling though, that movie was rather boring, can't even remember much of it.

I'd like if the chryssalids had things like air-ducts to move through, or they could break down thin walls at the cost of half their movement. Walking up walls and on ceilings?

Maybe the aliens could send them in like the headcrab capsules. Launching them in from afar onto random spots on the map.

Or you could have this.   The only enemy would be chrysallids, and there are a large number of civilians.   All you'd have to do is get rid of the time delay for zombification, and the fishing town mission would look like a cake walk.   

[Sindain]

Something like this would be best thing.

Hopefully more thrilling though, that movie was rather boring, can't even remember much of it.

I'd like if the chryssalids had things like air-ducts to move through, or they could break down thin walls at the cost of half their movement. Walking up walls and on ceilings?

Maybe the aliens could send them in like the headcrab capsules. Launching them in from afar onto random spots on the map.

Or you could have this.   The only enemy would be chrysallids, and there are a large number of civilians.   All you'd have to do is get rid of the time delay for zombification, and the fishing town mission would look like a cake walk.

And make it the size of the cruise ship terror missions from TFTD.

60 civilians spread out across 4 stories of ~100x30 squares of tight passageways with say, 5 squads of chryssalids..

[Mephansteras]

Something like this would be best thing.

Hopefully more thrilling though, that movie was rather boring, can't even remember much of it.

I'd like if the chryssalids had things like air-ducts to move through, or they could break down thin walls at the cost of half their movement. Walking up walls and on ceilings?

Maybe the aliens could send them in like the headcrab capsules. Launching them in from afar onto random spots on the map.

Or you could have this.   The only enemy would be chrysallids, and there are a large number of civilians.   All you'd have to do is get rid of the time delay for zombification, and the fishing town mission would look like a cake walk.

I had a terror mission like that once. Wave after wave of Chryssalids and zombies. It was rather tense.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Hmm....you know, EXALT missions take place in supposedly covert conditions. That means there really should be civilians. I bet EXALT could do some interesting things with Chryssalid parts, Meld, and a total disregard for ethics.

[Lightningfalcon]

Something like this would be best thing.

Hopefully more thrilling though, that movie was rather boring, can't even remember much of it.

I'd like if the chryssalids had things like air-ducts to move through, or they could break down thin walls at the cost of half their movement. Walking up walls and on ceilings?

Maybe the aliens could send them in like the headcrab capsules. Launching them in from afar onto random spots on the map.

Or you could have this.   The only enemy would be chrysallids, and there are a large number of civilians.   All you'd have to do is get rid of the time delay for zombification, and the fishing town mission would look like a cake walk.

And make it the size of the cruise ship terror missions from TFTD.

60 civilians spread out across 4 stories of ~100x30 squares of tight passageways with say, 5 squads of chryssalids..

Having that many civilians would require, at the least, the ability to target civilians with your own weapons.   With only six soldiers you don't have the ability to keep an eye on them.   

[Sindain]

Thats the point 

But you would be able to rescue the civis just like in a normal terror mission to get them out of your way.

[Thexor]

Hmm....you know, EXALT missions take place in supposedly covert conditions. That means there really should be civilians. I bet EXALT could do some interesting things with Chryssalid parts, Meld, and a total disregard for ethics.

I had one EXALT mission in that bombed-out military base map. "Yeah, sure, 'covert op'. That's why all the tanks have massive plasma holes in their sides, and the entire facility is on fire."