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[umiman]

Yeah, on robot punching.

[Mr Space Cat]

Yeah, on robot punching.

I swear the only reason I made it through one XCOM:EU Classic Ironman early game and not die horribly to thin men was because I made a robot puncher out of a useless squaddie sniper. She pretty much carried the team at times.

[umiman]

Unbiased pros and cons to robot punching:

Pros:
1. No need to reload
2. Perfect accuracy
3. Second most damage in the game from a single attack
4. Gives bonus movement
5. Can hit multiple targets
6. Can destroy cover
7. Looks awesome

Cons:
1. Only limited to robots
2. Makes humans look extremely weak and useless
3. Angry, unemployed humans might form union prohibiting the use of robot punching

[kilakan]

Another con, engineers need to clean the robot fist every once in awhile and alien guts take a lot of expensive cleaners.

[Sean Mirrsen]

And it makes you choose between all that, and a weapon that can panic Chryssalids.

[GreatWyrmGold]

You're late enough in the game to encounter Sectopods, yet Chrysallids cause more problems for you? Don't plasma weapons 1-2 shot Chrysallids? You also had Sid Meier?

I have the ability to make plasma weapons, I just haven't done it nearly enough. Especially given that I keep forgetting to take them off the veterans before giving them to newbies.
And seriously. Cryssalids travel in packs, they move fast, get another move when they enter your sight range, and deal craptons of damage.

Yeah, on robot punching.

I swear the only reason I made it through one XCOM:EU Classic Ironman early game and not die horribly to thin men was because I made a robot puncher out of a useless squaddie sniper. She pretty much carried the team at times.

...Robot puncher? Do you mean MEC? Which are from the EW expansion?

And it makes you choose between all that, and a weapon that can panic Chryssalids.

...Wait, what?

[Krath]

Flamethrowers panic everything. Everything.

_{As long as 'everything' falls under what they actually damage.}

[GreatWyrmGold]

Ah.

P.S. I'm starting the Base Assault mission. I realized partway through the squad selection process that Cnl. Meier was still going to be in the hospital for a couple of days, but I went on with just Cnl. Levine, Cnl. Zander, and assorted non-heroes. Half the squad has plasma, the two assaults have alloy cannons, and Levine...he has a normal sniper rifle okay? I evidently didn't have enough.

Wish me luck.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

What you need for Base Assault depends entirely on what stage of the invasion it is. If you aren't past Floaters (and maybe Mutons), ballistic can be sufficient. But since you have plasma, I'm guessing you're at Elite Mutons and Sectopods, in which case you're doomed.

[GreatWyrmGold]

I have plasma weaponry, and am using it. Mostly.

Also, I'm having problems. It keeps saying it's out of video memory before I can actually do anything.
...
Um.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Yeah, "mostly" isn't going to cut it when its your sniper that's got the exception. If it was a heavy or support you'd probably be alright, but without efficient sniper coverage? You dead.

[GreatWyrmGold]

I have another sniper.

And snipers seem to be the class most hampered by indoor environments. All the frickin' walls...

[Mr Space Cat]

5. Can hit multiple targets

Wait, really? Huh. I thought it only applied to destroying cover, not hitting multiple aliens with one rocketfist.

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Also, GWG, I think everyone is exaggerating the difficulty you can expect from the base assault mission. You weren't playing on classic or higher, right? The game is nice enough to give you some advantages, like not having too many aliens attacking you at once. I'd think you could handle it well, since you've got plasma and stuff. Just don't leave things to chance. Make sure you've got a backup plan at all times, and don't get in an extended firefight with aliens. either move closer to flank them, or retreat and draw them into overwatch ambushes. If you aren't playing on Ironman, you could just reload if things go wrong.

On the topic of difficulties, I tried playing a game on normal with a bunch of second wave options instead of classic, and it's amazing how many 45% shots hit. My rookies actually shot sectoids pretty reliably. It's absurd.

[GreatWyrmGold]

I'm on Easy. Anything higher would probably destroy me.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Goddammit, why do I keep running out of video memory when I assault the alien base?

What does that even mean?