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[GlyphGryph]

I don't think the inability to trade weapons (or at least pick up medpacks from the fallen) is ever going to be a thing that will stop bugging me.

So, what are y'alls wishlist for the game, feature-wise? Mine's as such:

Ability to pick up equipment from fallen soldiers and generally swap equipment.
Ability to pick up wounded soldiers/knocked out aliens (though you obviously won't be able to dash or fight while carrying them.)
The previously mentioned more-interesting-npcs. And the previously hoped for ability to recruit from the ones that impress.

With that, I think it would be possible to generate many even more interesting stories.

[Cthulhu]

It's a pipe-dream, but a version with less structure.  Adding all these story elements really cuts into replay value, because I feel like I'm doing the exact same thing every time I start a new game for the first few hours.

[MaximumZero]

Basically, I want more mission types and npc's that aren't useless as hell. Oh soldier on the bridge, where the hell did your gun go? Get the fuck over here and help. Oh hi mr general, wait, were you seriously down here without a weapon? I thought you came here to fight! Ass.

You don't understand. He was going to go hand-to-hand fistfighting with those sectoids.

I see nothing wrong with that plan.

[Hanslanda]

Basically, I want more mission types and npc's that aren't useless as hell. Oh soldier on the bridge, where the hell did your gun go? Get the fuck over here and help. Oh hi mr general, wait, were you seriously down here without a weapon? I thought you came here to fight! Ass.

You don't understand. He was going to go hand-to-hand fistfighting with those sectoids.

I see nothing wrong with that plan.

I bet sectoids are incredibly easy to beat up in hand to hand.

[Neonivek]

Well Hanslanda a human punch DOES do 9 damage.

[Hanslanda]

How much health does a Sectoid have? I got this game, but I've only got a single-core, so I can't actually play it yet.

[612DwarfAvenue]

How much health does a Sectoid have? I got this game, but I've only got a single-core, so I can't actually play it yet.

4 HP if i recall correctly, 5 if another Sectoid's using Mindmeld or whatever it's called on it.

[Neonivek]

How much health does a Sectoid have? I got this game, but I've only got a single-core, so I can't actually play it yet.

the regular sectoid troop has 3 health on normal.

[Hanslanda]

So, on normal, a human punch (allegedly) hits hard enough to kill three sectoids. At the same time.

[Thexor]

3 HP on Normal and Classic, 4 HP on Impossible. Add 1 HP if mind merged from another Sectoid.
(Not sure about Easy health.)


Difficulty-level based health is actually really interesting, and it's one of the things I think the devs did really well. Compare Normal to Classic. Sectoids have 3 HP in both modes. Thin Men go from 3 -> 4. Floaters have 4 in both.

And then you have Outsiders, who have 3 HP in Normal and 5 HP in Classic. Notably, 3 HP is the cutoff for 'easy' stunning with an Arc Thrower, meaning you can semi-reliably stun a full-health Outsider on Normal, but you've got to weaken it first on Classic. Seeing as how one of the major story objectives is to stun an Outsider...

So, on normal, a human punch (allegedly) hits hard enough to kill three sectoids. At the same time.

Only if they are first killed and resurrected as a semi-mobile alien cocoon. 

[Neonivek]

I really dislike what they did with outsiders in this game.

They were truely throw away and they didn't know what to do with them at all.

Yes Thexor but those things don't possess super strength.

[Cthulhu]

Sure they do, they can claw through Titan armor.  Maybe the zombies are just a dead flesh cocoon and the chryssalid is actually what puts the force behind the swings.

Maybe it's a video game and making zombies do 2 damage wouldn't be interesting or fun.

When you can only have one, fun trumps realism.

[alway]

Sure they do, they can claw through Titan armor.  Maybe the zombies are just a dead flesh cocoon and the chryssalid is actually what puts the force behind the swings.

Not a cocoon... A chrysalis

But yeah; if it uses a human body at maximum strength, without the normal self-preservation limits, you could get like twice the strength from it. And beyond that, you have a developing cryssalid; whose development may or may not make it even stronger. Then the cryssalid's combat ability; which are likely way better than any human's. So you're looking at about the equivalent of Bruce Lee as far as fighting ability goes.

[Neonivek]

Except that a Crysalid has toxins, sharp claws, Supperior leverage, chittin support and it STILL does less damage (7+toxins). A zombie lacks full control of its movement, is losing several life sustaining organs (a zombie is essentially dying), does shambling punches, and is suffering muscular death and it still manages to punch everyone out.

Just admit it. Bruce Lee could probably punch a Cyberdisc to death in a single turn.

It probably hurts it that Crysalids just don't have the same fear factor they once had when they were unstoppable killing machines.

[Muz]

I feel that this game could benefit from a few more mission types. "The police station in under attack, police officers are holed up inside, go save as many as you can" or "The army is combating mutons but need support clearing out a concentration of them". I'd enjoy working with npc's that could actually fight. Especially if you could give them a general tactic, like choices of "suppress and stay back" or "move up with us".

Basically, I want more mission types and npc's that aren't useless as hell. Oh soldier on the bridge, where the hell did your gun go? Get the fuck over here and help. Oh hi mr general, wait, were you seriously down here without a weapon? I thought you came here to fight! Ass.

Of course, this would have to be balanced out by the npc's dying in one hit and having shite accuracy. Don't want to make it too easy.

If they make a sequel similar to Apocalypse, I'm pretty sure they're going to add that. I think they didn't want to stray too far from the old XCom taste (though the bomb missions did that) and adding fighting NPCs add another factor to balance. It would've been trivial to add a pistol attack on a NPC, but they didn't want to do that on purpose.