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[timferius]

I was just picking random, non-represented country names. For some reason, I really, really like the word Lithuania, and use it whenever I get the chance. No offence was meant by my post.

[Kilroy the Grand]

I'm not that bothered by the UI. Sure, the "double confirming orders" is a bit bothersome, but that's about it. I do have to echo Hemmingjay's statement. The official forums were FILLED with complaints, whining and OMG NOT GONNA PLAY JAKE SOLOMON LIED BAAAAAAAAH. It's died down a bit now, but still ... I can understand people having issues, but the tone was just way out of line. And the sense of entitlement is over 9000 and that is not a new phenomenon, sadly.

Oh good lord yes, the official forums are mayhem! We're even seeing a resurgence of the "No Poland/lituania/iceland/etc" from CivV. That forum has a large, vocal, and annoyed Polish group, that's for sure...

Don't lump Lithuania in with the Polish, That's almost as bad as mixing them with Russians.

hey now we are still best buds and hate russia together

I don't think so draugas

[Mephansteras]

I'm not that bothered by the UI. Sure, the "double confirming orders" is a bit bothersome, but that's about it. I do have to echo Hemmingjay's statement. The official forums were FILLED with complaints, whining and OMG NOT GONNA PLAY JAKE SOLOMON LIED BAAAAAAAAH. It's died down a bit now, but still ... I can understand people having issues, but the tone was just way out of line. And the sense of entitlement is over 9000 and that is not a new phenomenon, sadly.

Oh good lord yes, the official forums are mayhem! We're even seeing a resurgence of the "No Poland/lituania/iceland/etc" from CivV. That forum has a large, vocal, and annoyed Polish group, that's for sure...

Don't lump Lithuania in with the Polish, That's almost as bad as mixing them with Russians.

hey now we are still best buds and hate russia together

I don't think so draugas

We have aliens invading and you decide to dredge up stuff from almost a century ago to fight about?! Earth is doooooomed!



:p

[EnigmaticHat]

Anyhow Floaters are easier to balance if they arn't capable of landing on anything that cannot be moved to or is in line of sight. (or if simply speaking... the very tops of buildings are not allowed)

Floaters don't actually need to land ever.  And the roofs of buildings are intentionally accessible to certain land units such as grappling snipers and thin men who can use them as a nice firing positions or sneaky way to scout or flank the enemy.

It's a legit strategy, provided you actually use it to engage the enemy.  Even if they made it so inaccessible locations weren't possible, someone could just hide their last sectoid in some cranny and go AFK.  The simplest solution to those tricks would be to not track stats.  That way you can just leave if it's obvious your opponent has given up.  Course, that would have the opposite problem of not discouraging quitters...

[Mephansteras]

I believe for multiplayer there is a turn/time limit option, and the game decides a victor at the end if one side doesn't finish first. So that'll help with that sort of problem, since hiding in a corner only delays your loss. Not that griefers won't use that trick anyway to waste people's time.

[mikefictiti0us]

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[Domenique]

I'm not that bothered by the UI. Sure, the "double confirming orders" is a bit bothersome, but that's about it. I do have to echo Hemmingjay's statement. The official forums were FILLED with complaints, whining and OMG NOT GONNA PLAY JAKE SOLOMON LIED BAAAAAAAAH. It's died down a bit now, but still ... I can understand people having issues, but the tone was just way out of line. And the sense of entitlement is over 9000 and that is not a new phenomenon, sadly.

Oh good lord yes, the official forums are mayhem! We're even seeing a resurgence of the "No Poland/lituania/iceland/etc" from CivV. That forum has a large, vocal, and annoyed Polish group, that's for sure...

Don't lump Lithuania in with the Polish, That's almost as bad as mixing them with Russians.

hey now we are still best buds and hate russia together

I don't think so draugas

That was such a long time ago. We have our issues but I personally like polish people and I'm even learning polish right now.

P.S. Sorry for the off-topic pyramid.

[Kaje]

Well, if you don't mind a few spoilers, check this out:
http://forums.2kgames.com/showthread.php?140951-Additional-settings-which-make-game-coolest!

It's a list of additional settings, kind of like Civs advanced options. Actually here, I'll copy and paste below as well. SPOILERS.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The Second Wave: Advanced Gameplay Options
Note: These gameplay options will significantly increase the challenge of the game!

[eGO_CritOnFlank]=Absolutely Critical
[eGO_CritOnFlank]=A flanking shot will guarantee a critical hit.

[eGO_DecliningFunding]=War Weariness
[eGO_DecliningFunding]=Overall funding levels drop inexorably with every month that passes.

[eGO_DegradingElerium]=E-115
[eGO_DegradingElerium]=Elerium stores will degrade over time.

[eGO_EscalatingSatelliteCosts]=Diminishing Returns
[eGO_EscalatingSatelliteCosts]=The cost of satellites increases with every one that is built.

[eGO_InterrogateForPsi]=The Greater Good
[eGO_InterrogateForPsi]=The secret of psionics can only be learned by interrogating a psionic alien.

[eGO_LoseGearOnDeath]=Total Loss
[eGO_LoseGearOnDeath]=Lose all gear from soldiers who die in combat.

[eGO_Marathon]=Marathon
[eGO_Marathon]=The game takes considerably longer to complete.

[eGO_MoreAbductionSites]=The Blitz
[eGO_MoreAbductionSites]=The aliens will target a larger number of cities every time they launch an abduction attack.

[eGO_MorePower]=Alternate Sources
[eGO_MorePower]=The power requirements of all facilities are increased.

[eGO_PanicAffectsFunding]=A country will offer less funding as its panic increases.
[eGO_PanicAffectsFunding]=Results Driven

[eGO_RandomDamage]=Damage Roulette
[eGO_RandomDamage]=Weapons have a much wider range of damage.

[eGO_RandomFunding]=New Economy
[eGO_RandomFunding]=The funding offered by individual council members is randomized.

[eGO_RandomRookieStats]=Not Created Equally
[eGO_RandomRookieStats]=Rookies will have random starting stats.

[eGO_RandomStatProgression]=Hidden Potential
[eGO_RandomStatProgression]=As a soldier is promoted, their stats will increase randomly.

[eGO_UltraRarePsionics]=More Than Human
[eGO_UltraRarePsionics]=The psionic gift is extremely rare.

[eGO_VariableAbductionRewards]=High Stakes
[eGO_VariableAbductionRewards]=The rewards granted for stopping alien abductions are randomized.

[eGO_WoundsAffectStats]=Red Fog
[eGO_WoundsAffectStats]=Any wounds taken in combat will degrade a soldier's stats for that mission.

Super list!

I'll be activating Marathon, Greater Good, Not Created Equally and Hidden Potential for my first play-through.

[forsaken1111]

I'll be using:

The Greater Good
Marathon
Alternate Sources
Results Driven
New Economy
Not Created Equally
Hidden Potential
More Than Human
High Stakes
Red Fog

[Dohon]

"Critical thinking" is an awfully pretentious way to describe complaining about a lack of keybinding.

He was also talking more about the official forums, I think.

Exactly. This forum has been very civil about the problems. If you have issues with the demo / game, by all means, let it be known! But there is a difference between "I got a problem with this" and "OMG YOU GUYS SUCK AND LIED AND NOW I WILL SCREAM IN ALL CAPS BECAUSE OF LIMITED DEMO". The official forums have exploded with responses of the latter kind, which annoyed me to no end. Then again, the official forums suffer a bit from the rampant fanboyism, causing critical (yet not badly worded) posts to be buried underneath "lol, wat u know, noob?" posts.

I'm getting the game no matter what. I saved up months for this game and I have seen enough footage to convince me that it will not have been in vain.

[Aptus]

Finally got some time to play the demo. Mostly enjoyed it. Some annoyances.

1) Game looks great when everything is pumped up to max.
2) I quite like turn based system compared to TU's.
3) I got used to the UI, but it was quite frankly terrible.
4) I still hate the class system, but I knew that going in.
5) Only american voices for the troopers is a bit jarring.
6) I hope the whole you-got-to-choose-you-can't-do-both is only used in the tutorial thingy, I do not like those forced choices that make no sense.


In conclusion, although it seems to have flaws, some major, others minor, it still is looking to become an enjoyable experience.

I very much liked the list of optional difficulty settings that was posted and will be using many of those to up the difficulty to a more (un)comfortable level

[GlyphGryph]

I'm pretty sure the forced choices will be a regular thing, from what they've said. But it's not really unreasonable - you can only respond on so many fronts, and hope the locals can handle the other situation. Just like in a real war, where the enemy can force you to make choices you don't want to, right?

[forsaken1111]

I'm pretty sure the forces choices will be a regular thing, from what they've said. But it's not really unreasonable - you can only respond on so many fronts, and hope the locals can handle the other situation. Just like in a real war, where the enemy can force you to make choices you don't want to, right?

In the original game I could just make two teams of xcom troops and respond to both missions. It really is an unreasonable and unrealistic forced choice.

[Kaje]

5) Only american voices for the troopers is a bit jarring.

This is the biggest annoyance for me.

There were four or five voice choices in the demo, and all of them were American and most of them sounded like they were the same file.

In a preview build dished out to a few sites, there are 7 voice choices - again, all of which are American and many of which sound the same according to the reviewers.

For all the emphasis on becoming attached to your soldiers, and going to the trouble of including different nationalities, it seems like a huge oversight on their part to not include any available accent except for American. SEVEN AMERICAN VOICES.

Ridiculous. And lazy.

[GlyphGryph]

In the original game I could just make two teams of xcom troops and respond to both missions. It really is an unreasonable and unrealistic forced choice.

In the original game, the aliens were stupid and never tried to launch multi-prong attacks at all. Most players wouldn't have had two skyrangers, and wouldn't have been able to respond to both, at least until later in the game. So if the original aliens were more powerful/less dumb, it's probably still a choice you would have had to make.

Apocolypse, of course, got around that by making vehicles freely available, so multiple attacks where all the time.