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[Xvareon]

It's also worth noting that, since the MEC itself becomes heavy cover, that means that it blocks sight range for the purposes of shooting past the MEC. If you were to park a MEC behind heavy cover, you would notice that it can't shoot at enemies past that cover, and enemies can't shoot at it, because it cannot lean around that cover like a soldier would. The same works for a MEC standing behind another MEC that is using One For All, and it also works for SHIVs in the same way. This basically allows your MECs to cover each other by not just taking hits, but denying the possibility of partner MECs receiving hits entirely. And the best part? MECs in One For All stance can still use restorative mist to heal their allies, or grenade launchers and proximity mines to control the battlefield and destroy cover.

Explosives are a different matter, of course.

[puke]

Well I decided that it was time to plunge back into Long War.  I realized that I was wasting a lot of time between all the projects I'm working on, and that I might as well be wasting it playing a video game than just clicking on things.

So, back into the breach.  Time to download 14i and get the latest patch...

But what is this?  Beta 15 has just popped up? 

Change Log

• More voices
• More nationalities
• country bonus for where you launch your first satellite
• smaller country bonuses for subsequent satellites
• continental bonuses tweaked
• NSLW overhaul, can finetune pace of game and mission density
• 7 (SEVEN!) types of MEC suit with various protection / mobility tradeoffs
• critical wound bleedout now randomized and hidden from player
• items can break and be repaired
• LOTS of other smaller tweaks
• LOTS of fixes

and this is just whats new in 15.  If you haven't played the mod before... it's a whole new game.

Still no multiplayer...

[forsaken1111]

Oh balls...

I thought I was done with this game but... that looks awesome

[Mephansteras]

Long War itself is pretty amazing. Beta 15 so far is a blast. Can't wait for more voice packs to come out!

[Digital Hellhound]

Are the voice packs actually good, then? I can't remember what version of Long War I tried out last time, but I'm gonna give this a chance. My main complaint about it is that I don't really form emotional attachments to my guys, there are so many and they die more easily. Maybe if I played for longer and got some veterans it'd feel different, but there.

[Mephansteras]

Are the voice packs actually good, then? I can't remember what version of Long War I tried out last time, but I'm gonna give this a chance. My main complaint about it is that I don't really form emotional attachments to my guys, there are so many and they die more easily. Maybe if I played for longer and got some veterans it'd feel different, but there.

Yeah, they're pretty good. They're fan made, so not always the best, but I haven't run into anything that's bothered me yet.

[scriver]

I rather there were more maps than new voices, though. The repetitiveness of the maps was pretty much what kept me from being able to play it for very long.

[Aklyon]

Are the voice packs actually good, then? I can't remember what version of Long War I tried out last time, but I'm gonna give this a chance. My main complaint about it is that I don't really form emotional attachments to my guys, there are so many and they die more easily. Maybe if I played for longer and got some veterans it'd feel different, but there.

Yeah, they're pretty good. They're fan made, so not always the best, but I haven't run into anything that's bothered me yet.

Apparently Firaxis helped them a bit with the settings for the audio as well.

[Mephansteras]

I rather there were more maps than new voices, though. The repetitiveness of the maps was pretty much what kept me from being able to play it for very long.

How recently have you tried Long War? They randomized the start positions on a bunch of the maps, so you get a very different feel now even for maps you've played before.

It's not as good as new maps, but it does help with the repetitiveness a good bit.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

With any luck this cooperation is the first step to Firaxis releasing their modding tools to the Long War team.

[crazysheep]

Question re LW b15: when can you actually use the Commander's Choice second wave option? Is it only at the post-battle promotions report screen, or can you do it via the barracks at any time? Cos I can't seem to get it working, for some reason.

[puke]

Only at the barracks and deployment screens.   The post battle screen does not have the necessary left-right-arrows.  You use the arrows that normally cycle through different soldiers.

[crazysheep]

Thanks, that worked. It wasn't obvious in the ingame tooltip.

[puke]

no, I wouldn't have figured it out except that I think I saw it in the change log or in a comment in the .ini file.

Just ran into a bug where an alien went into overwatch, I suppressed him (probably with the opportunity fire perk) and then another soldier ran within the alien's LOS.  I seems to have hung waiting for the alien to take the overwatch shot (which should in turn trigger an opp-fire shot?)

not sure..

[i2amroy]

no, I wouldn't have figured it out except that I think I saw it in the change log or in a comment in the .ini file.

Just ran into a bug where an alien went into overwatch, I suppressed him (probably with the opportunity fire perk) and then another soldier ran within the alien's LOS.  I seems to have hung waiting for the alien to take the overwatch shot (which should in turn trigger an opp-fire shot?)

not sure..

If they are suppressed they shouldn't be taking overwatch shots at all IIRC. That said I have run into a thing where overwatch tries to trigger for some reason or another, but the person who's supposed to shoot never actually takes the shot. Usually after a minute or two of being in reaaaaaaalllyyy slooooooowwww mooooootiooooon it goes back to normal speed just fine.