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[Thallone]

Not sure why, but I decided to save a game while my master bookkeeper(and trader and .... ) was falling due to a cavern collapse. Also not precisely sure what triggered it...

Anyway, his icon seems to indicate duress, and he's hanging in midair, and using dfcompanion is ineffective. Also, when you 'v' his location the game indicates there is no unit nearby, in 'u' he has no jobs.

new bug? if not, let me know, but I didn't see it.

[Lyrax]

That's... a simultaneously disturbing and awesome image.

[Kagus]

Try dropping a kitten on top of him.

[Thallone]

quote:Originally posted by Kagus:
<STRONG>Try dropping a kitten on top of him.</STRONG>

I have no idea what that would possibly do, but it's so bizzare, it's tempting, I have to do it.

[Keiseth]

quote:Originally posted by Lyrax:
<STRONG>That's... a simultaneously disturbing and awesome image.</STRONG>

Agreed. Maybe, try dumping water on him, or flooding a nearby area, if you want to retrieve him. That might wake him up.

[Kagus]

I think there may be a chance that the game will respond if another projectile-creature enters his space.  With any luck, they'll collide and the game will wake up so they both get to plummet to the ground.  Kittens just have a habit of being available for such occasions.

[Surma]

Well, the only thing I can think of thats similar to that is when you use Gibbed's Tools to modify a tile to add water. You would have to build (well place it for building, not necessarily build it) then remove the building to get the water to flow.

You could try the same thing for this problem.. Not promising anything though.  :p

[Toady One]

Projectiles don't have a unit flag in the square, which would explain why the dwarf doesn't show up in regular cursors.  So...  does this happen whenever you cave-in a unit and then save?  I imagine it'll be easy to duplicate if so.

[Thallone]

had an opportunity to play some more with the tags that are editable in the dwarf details: 0x1.4 is set on the dwarf who is not falling when he should be. removing that setting causes him to fall normally and die miserably. So, Toady, whatever that flag is, unchecking it will reactivate the affected dwarf and cause him to splatter nicely. Once the dwarf begins to fall, I see nothing that will stop him/her.

Hope this helps!

[Toady One]

I'm not sure what 0x1.4 refers to, but if you removed the projectile flag (which should be there), it would re-run the ground check and make the dwarf fall, but that wouldn't address the actual problem (and would possibly create a duplicate projectile object and further issues).  Anyway, I'll note this down, but if it doesn't reproduce for me, I'll need a save with the problem.

[Toady One]

I couldn't get it to reproduce after saving with falling units.  If somebody comes up with a save, I might be able to figure it out.

[codezero]

I don't know if this is related but I was messing around with channels once and my dwarf got stuck in midair, I didn't find out until he was starving and dehydrated but I managed to save him by building a floor underneath him. (He made it to the kitchen)

[Footkerchief]

I couldn't get it to reproduce after saving with falling units.  If somebody comes up with a save, I might be able to figure it out.

Following up on this, there's speculation in another thread that it only happens with units that get propelled by blows:

Are you sure about that? Toady has that bug marked as not reproducible. I suspect that the ability to reliably reproduce it would be useful.

Interesting.  Seems like Toady couldn't get it to reproduce from falling entities; maybe it only applies to 'propelled' creatures.

[Sphalerite]

I was able to reproduce this today with an orc flung by a retracting bridge.  Saving while the orc was airborne left me with a stuck orc when I reloaded.  I tried this with a dozen or so orcs and only one became stuck, so there's some other factor deciding when it happens.

[Keldor]

Yeah, I've had this happen with goblins that were punted through the air by champions.  It seems to happen when there's a unit with the airborne flag due to being launched into the air by something.  Maybe only when that unit is also airborne on a square with a floor?

The airborne goblin also prevented the siege flag from clearing after all the other ones were dead/fled.