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Author Topic: Safe way to handle Forgotten Beast Extract?  (Read 7044 times)

Loud Whispers

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Re: Safe way to handle Forgotten Beast Extract?
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2012, 12:39:55 am »
Your fortress is dirty D:

That said, you're one of the few people who actually bothers to shower them.
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Re: Safe way to handle Forgotten Beast Extract?
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2012, 07:14:24 am »
I do that too...
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Re: Safe way to handle Forgotten Beast Extract?
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2012, 12:33:55 am »
Ok, after listening to everyone's advice, I've decided that GLORIOUS MAGMA PURIFICATION is the only way to go here.  I am currently pumping large quantities of MAGMA through a hole I dug in the ceiling of the contaminated room, and I'm going to keep the magma flowing until it completely destroys everything in the room... then I'll open the gate into the caverns and let it set the entire cavern layer on !!FIRE!!, hopefully destroying all the contaminants out there as well...

I also dug a drainage pipe underneath the contaminated room with an obsidian floodgate to block the drain until I'm satisfied that all the nasty forgotten beast extract has been disposed of... hopefully I should be able to drain the magma away and eventually reclaim the area.

Wish me luck.  :P

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« Last Edit: January 14, 2012, 12:42:40 am by nomad_delta »
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Re: Safe way to handle Forgotten Beast Extract?
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2012, 03:15:02 am »
Just make sure you don't leave that one blob of extract that spreads towards your fortress like a vengeful fungus....
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Re: Safe way to handle Forgotten Beast Extract?
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2012, 03:55:34 am »
I have been considering options for when I reach the cavern layer...

...does fire provide an adequate decontamination system? I have a huge lignite stockpile so I was just going to have an airlock with lignite floor grates and an ignition/extinguisher system.
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Re: Safe way to handle Forgotten Beast Extract?
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2012, 03:57:26 am »
Quote from: Urist McKiwi on January 14, 2012, 03:55:34 am
I have been considering options for when I reach the cavern layer...

...does fire provide an adequate decontamination system? I have a huge lignite stockpile so I was just going to have an airlock with lignite floor grates and an ignition/extinguisher system.

If it's flat enough, fire should work. It'd either burn the syndromes, at best, or just cover it with ash at worst (par doing nothing at all).
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Re: Safe way to handle Forgotten Beast Extract?
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2012, 07:48:07 am »
A burning object will destroy contamination in the tile it is in, and in adjacent tiles as well.  A burning grate will destroy contamination on or next to it.

However, to set the grates on fire you'll need to pour magma on them, and the magma will destroy the contamination anyway, making the burning grates pointless.

Also, only artifact lignite grates will burn forever.  Normal lignite grates will eventually be destroyed by fire.
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Re: Safe way to handle Forgotten Beast Extract?
« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2012, 07:59:12 am »
Quote from: Sphalerite on January 14, 2012, 07:48:07 am
A burning object will destroy contamination in the tile it is in, and in adjacent tiles as well.  A burning grate will destroy contamination on or next to it.

However, to set the grates on fire you'll need to pour magma on them, and the magma will destroy the contamination anyway, making the burning grates pointless.

Also, only artifact lignite grates will burn forever.  Normal lignite grates will eventually be destroyed by fire.

Hmm, interesting...would a burning lignite grate ignite a lignite grate next to it?  I'm wondering if some sort of fuse-type construction would be possible.
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Re: Safe way to handle Forgotten Beast Extract?
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2012, 04:59:12 pm »
By the way, you could have just built a road and deconstructed it. That removes extracts from the tiles below the road. It also has the advantage that it can be done from several tiles away. Just make sure your dorfs don't stand too close.
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Re: Safe way to handle Forgotten Beast Extract?
« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2012, 05:52:14 pm »
Magma-fication of the airlock and caverns in progress!



My first attempt failed somewhat, as I expected gravity to be adequate to flow the magma out of the side of the magma pipe... it was insufficient, and the magma was spreading out and evaporating more quickly than gravity was moving it in.

So I drained that tube out, made a small cistern, and build three dwarf-powered screw-pumps to force the magma in... this is working *much* better.

In the intervening time three new Forgotten Beasts had shown up so I chained up a bunch of spare puppies and kittens inside the airlock the lure them in before I dumped the magma on their heads.  This worked to great effect.

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Re: Safe way to handle Forgotten Beast Extract?
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2012, 06:11:29 pm »
Aren't FB's immune to magma?

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Re: Safe way to handle Forgotten Beast Extract?
« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2012, 06:26:24 pm »
We need a thermal shock mechanic...that way we can make magma-immune FB's explode on demand in a cloud of burning infectious toxic blood/ichor/rock salt/whatever.

Bad for fortress health, but possibly a decent weapon if confined and channelled correctly.
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Re: Safe way to handle Forgotten Beast Extract?
« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2012, 06:29:29 pm »
Quote from: Loud Whispers on January 14, 2012, 06:11:29 pm
Aren't FB's immune to magma?

Some are, some aren't.  Forgotten beasts made of flesh tend to be killed by magma.  Forgotten beasts made of meltable materials - non magma-safe stone and metal - will melt in magma.  On the other hand, forgotten beasts made from magma-safe stone, gem, or metal, or most of the hard-coded materials like grime or mud, will laugh at magma.
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