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[JoshuaFH]

So it's no exaggeration that I'm pretty sour about being jobless and living with my Mom.

And it's not like I haven't been looking, but online job searching sites have proven very unfruitful, especially since I live in a terrible area for jobs in general. You can imagine how ecstatic I was when I actually got a call for an interview.

It was for a Bankers Life and Casualty Insurance company, and I did find that unusual since I never applied there. From the call and email I received, it's for an informational meeting, not an actual interview, for something or other. Curious, I type in the name of the company, and google is more than happy to fill in 'is a scam' at the end of the company's name. Exploring these avenues, it would seem that an awful lot of people are pretty unhappy with Bankers Life, and I'm not entirely sure I should entertain the idea of going there, despite my sad situation.

I certainly don't want to be the naive fool, but I'm eager to get out of my sorry lot in life.

[King DZA]

Maybe you'll get kidnapped. Then you won't have to live with your mom anymore!

[Stargrasper]

Try to find a temp agency.  It's income.  Enough to potentially get your own place.  More importantly, temp agency work actually looks surprisingly good on your resume.

[Dante3214]

Though I live in an area with a comparatively high level of opportunity, finding a job as an unskilled worker is more than reasonably difficult. My opinion over Bankers Life is that it is probably not worth it. I've never had a call for a job I didn't apply for (at 21 years old at least), even while using a job-search website.


Try to stay upbeat if you can, you'd be surprised how many 'normal' people are stuck at home. As long as you remain eager to have a better life I'm sure something will come up.

SEMI-EDIT: Stargrasper's got the right idea.

[Bouchart]

So it's no exaggeration that I'm pretty sour about being jobless and living with my Mom.

And it's not like I haven't been looking, but online job searching sites have proven very unfruitful, especially since I live in a terrible area for jobs in general. You can imagine how ecstatic I was when I actually got a call for an interview.

It was for a Bankers Life and Casualty Insurance company, and I did find that unusual since I never applied there. From the call and email I received, it's for an informational meeting, not an actual interview, for something or other. Curious, I type in the name of the company, and google is more than happy to fill in 'is a scam' at the end of the company's name. Exploring these avenues, it would seem that an awful lot of people are pretty unhappy with Bankers Life, and I'm not entirely sure I should entertain the idea of going there, despite my sad situation.

I certainly don't want to be the naive fool, but I'm eager to get out of my sorry lot in life.

Chances are that it's for a commission-only sales job.  If you just, say, posted your resume publicly on a place like Monster, you are sure to get a bunch of those.  If you want to be a salesman, great, but there's a reason those jobs have huge turnover.

[JoshuaFH]

So it's no exaggeration that I'm pretty sour about being jobless and living with my Mom.

And it's not like I haven't been looking, but online job searching sites have proven very unfruitful, especially since I live in a terrible area for jobs in general. You can imagine how ecstatic I was when I actually got a call for an interview.

It was for a Bankers Life and Casualty Insurance company, and I did find that unusual since I never applied there. From the call and email I received, it's for an informational meeting, not an actual interview, for something or other. Curious, I type in the name of the company, and google is more than happy to fill in 'is a scam' at the end of the company's name. Exploring these avenues, it would seem that an awful lot of people are pretty unhappy with Bankers Life, and I'm not entirely sure I should entertain the idea of going there, despite my sad situation.

I certainly don't want to be the naive fool, but I'm eager to get out of my sorry lot in life.

Chances are that it's for a commission-only sales job.  If you just, say, posted your resume publicly on a place like Monster, you are sure to get a bunch of those.  If you want to be a salesman, great, but there's a reason those jobs have huge turnover.

That fits the description pretty spot on, that's what I'm thinking it is more by the second.

Try to find a temp agency.  It's income.  Enough to potentially get your own place.  More importantly, temp agency work actually looks surprisingly good on your resume.

Actually not something I've considered. I'll try it, especially since a rather large barrier to getting a job is just me being young and inexperienced.

[Deadmeat1471]

Try to find a temp agency.  It's income.  Enough to potentially get your own place.  More importantly, temp agency work actually looks surprisingly good on your resume.

Dont know what its like there, but temp agencys dont take anyone anymore - they just advertise jobs.

[Stargrasper]

Try to find a temp agency.  It's income.  Enough to potentially get your own place.  More importantly, temp agency work actually looks surprisingly good on your resume.

Dont know what its like there, but temp agencys dont take anyone anymore - they just advertise jobs.

That's not universal by any stretch.  I know many temp agencies still that will hire you and farm you out to clients as needed for temp work.  As per tradition, you work for the temp agency and are paid by the temp agency, with the client paying the agency.  If a client likes you enough, sometime they offer you a fulltime position.

[lordcooper]

Speaking as someone who fell for a very similar scheme a few years ago, steer well clear.

Chances are they'll have you going door to door on a commission only basis after trying to reel you in with potential earnings of six figure salaries.  The offices will be nice (if a little small) and there will be several other people (generally as many as the vacancies they are advertising) waiting for an interview too.  Guess what?  You will all get the job.

In a lot of cases you have to cover your own transport costs and some even require a (generally small) initial investment for 'training'.  It's called multi-level marketing (look it up) and is extremely similar in structure to a pyramid scheme.  They will try and pressure you into recruiting friends and blatantly lying to potential customers.  After two weeks (90 hours) of working in a similar role, I was £60 up.  That's 50% of what I would have gained from unemployment benefits.  Many of these operations (google The Cobra Group for a prime example) consist of a parent company using many different subsidiaries to compete with each other and help disguise the nature of the business.

I wish you the best of luck finding sustainable employment, but this just isn't it. 

Out of curiosity, what is the company's name?

Try to find a temp agency.  It's income.  Enough to potentially get your own place.  More importantly, temp agency work actually looks surprisingly good on your resume.

Dont know what its like there, but temp agencys dont take anyone anymore - they just advertise jobs.

That's incorrect.  I've worked for temp agencies in the past and would highly recommend it if a decent one can be found.  They do generally take a percentage of your wages, but you'll still usually (in my experience anyway) make a little more than you would if you were directly employed by the company.  The downside is that you'll have next to no job security.  A lot of employers really like seeing a significant period of agency work on a CV, as it shows you to be adaptable and unafraid of change.

[JoshuaFH]

Speaking as someone who fell for a very similar scheme a few years ago, steer well clear.

Chances are they'll have you going door to door on a commission only basis after trying to reel you in with potential earnings of six figure salaries.  The offices will be nice (if a little small) and there will be several other people (generally as many as the vacancies they are advertising) waiting for an interview too.  Guess what?  You will all get the job.

In a lot of cases you have to cover your own transport costs and some even require a (generally small) initial investment for 'training'.  It's called multi-level marketing (look it up) and is extremely similar in structure to a pyramid scheme.  They will try and pressure you into recruiting friends and blatantly lying to potential customers.  After two weeks (90 hours) of working in a similar role, I was £60 up.  That's 50% of what I would have gained from unemployment benefits.  Many of these operations (google The Cobra Group for a prime example) consist of a parent company using many different subsidiaries to compete with each other and help disguise the nature of the business.

I wish you the best of luck finding sustainable employment, but this just isn't it. 

Out of curiosity, what is the company's name?

Thanks for sharing your experience. The name of the company is Bankers Life and Casualty Insurance Company.

[Strife26]

Yeah, just from experience in the family, things of the nature of direct sales and direct commission work tend to be baaad things. Spend your time effectively working for free, or less, in a lot of cases.

The best thing that I can recommend is to keep hitting the pavement and apply everywhere that you can. In the short term, putting a few hours a week bussing tables is a lot better than nothing. So yeah, don't give up, make sure your resume is all pretty, then give the things out like candy. Even if a place isn't hiring, you might turn in your resume twenty minutes before someone quits (that's how I got my beloved first job).

[Stargrasper]

Yeah, just from experience in the family, things of the nature of direct sales and direct commission work tend to be baaad things. Spend your time effectively working for free, or less, in a lot of cases.

The best thing that I can recommend is to keep hitting the pavement and apply everywhere that you can. In the short term, putting a few hours a week bussing tables is a lot better than nothing. So yeah, don't give up, make sure your resume is all pretty, then give the things out like candy. Even if a place isn't hiring, you might turn in your resume twenty minutes before someone quits (that's how I got my beloved first job).

I forgot to mention that.  Most of my employers were not hiring when they hired me.  Never to afraid to give someone your resume and if they say they aren't hiring, ask them to take it anyway and keep it on file.  I've been called several months later.

[Tellemurius]

would you mind telling me which part of michigan do you live in?

[GlyphGryph]

Have you tried doing the handstand test?

Prop yourself up on your hands.

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Did everything black out and/or did you get a job?

[JoshuaFH]

would you mind telling me which part of michigan do you live in?

Saginaw, a rather terrible place for quite a lot of things, not just jobs.

Yeah, just from experience in the family, things of the nature of direct sales and direct commission work tend to be baaad things. Spend your time effectively working for free, or less, in a lot of cases.

The best thing that I can recommend is to keep hitting the pavement and apply everywhere that you can. In the short term, putting a few hours a week bussing tables is a lot better than nothing. So yeah, don't give up, make sure your resume is all pretty, then give the things out like candy. Even if a place isn't hiring, you might turn in your resume twenty minutes before someone quits (that's how I got my beloved first job).

I forgot to mention that.  Most of my employers were not hiring when they hired me.  Never to afraid to give someone your resume and if they say they aren't hiring, ask them to take it anyway and keep it on file.  I've been called several months later.

That's a thing? I mean, yeah I've heard it from the placement specialists at my old school, but the way they framed it made it look like the kind of wishful thinking bullshit logic that gets passed off as actual teaching nowadays. Maybe I'll try it, especially since I recently got a new printer, so now I can get as many resumes as that thing can dole out.