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[vastaghen12]

Sorry for the double post in advance.

Anyway, I tried to give my pixel-art skills a go and tried to make some sort of map layout sketch in relation to my previous sketches here, which started off pretty fine but later on just turned into a massive fragmenting and blurring spree.

I used a self-made grid when making that, and I'm satisfied with the results, mostly.

It could use more detial, and I see I made many mistakes (the exterior part looks atrocious, I know), but I'm too lazy to go and fix them.
Also a 200% version.

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At worst I could turn this into a Gang Garrison 2 map or something...

Huh wow. How long did it take you to do that?

[Mesa]

A few hours, maybe.
But I was doing it rather slowly, so...

Plus Paint.NET had a few handy brushes (did you expect me to paint all those bricks myself? Pfft.)

[Mesa]

Alright, more randomness for unnamed mutants game! (I really need to find a name for it and possibly organize all my stuff into a seperate thread, any ideas?)

I found some pretty decent pixel artsy designs for all 3 races (the bird ones were pain in the ass to get right though, but ultimately I went with Rambo storks - come on, everyone knows that storks are the most badass birds in the universe), using a slightly edited version of my previous map. (pretty heavily edited, actually, but it looks way cooler and has that post-apocalyptic theme going for it now)


This is 600% zoomed in. Shows how fine pixel art this really is.

Also I just noticed that essentially you now have storks eating frogs. Coincidence, I think not.

[SealyStar]

I also made pixel art (400% size), showing City Loser, Country Loser, Country Loser with Shotgun, and Country Loser with Pistol.

[freeformschooler]

I also made pixel art (400% size), showing City Loser, Country Loser, Country Loser with Shotgun, and Country Loser with Pistol.

[SealyStar]

I also made pixel art (400% size), showing City Loser, Country Loser, Country Loser with Shotgun, and Country Loser with Pistol.

They have proportionally huge heads, thick bodies, and short legs, and the one proportional distortion you pick out to critique is the relative length of their arms?

[freeformschooler]

They have proportionally huge heads, thick bodies, and short legs, and the one proportional distortion you pick out to critique is the relative length of their arms?

Yes, because it's more striking than all of the others - the other things you mention are fairly standard to amateur pixel art characters.

No need to be defensive. Constructive critique is good because there's other people not saying it who are thinking it. Always.

[SealyStar]

They're meant to be kind of cartoonish - you expect realistic depictions of stereotyped characters introduced as "city loser" and "country loser", the latter of whom is wearing overalls and a wife beater while smoking a cigarette and holding various firearms?

But anyway, I guess you have a point. It's an easy change.

[freeformschooler]

If you follow a model, you create expectations in the viewers' mind. For a cartoonish human, with an otherwise properly proportioned body (excepting small deviations like thick chest and large head), your average viewer is still going to expect Vitruvian Compliance. This is not just for you but for anyone interested in doing pixel art. It's a good thing to understand.

[SealyStar]

Fair enough. Thanks for the advice, I suppose.

Also, I just realized the Pistol Hick is missing his left shoulder anyway.

[Mesa]

Also he looks kinda weird with this left arm just being perfectly straight like that...
Also not to sound like an attention whore, but anyone mind commenting on my works?

[freeformschooler]

Your map is awesome. Ever been to the cartographer's guild forums?

[SealyStar]

I've been trying to improve the Losers. I tried to make a girlfriend for City Loser (so he could be City Slightly-Less-Loser), but trying to do female proportions with that scale of pixel art is hard, because one pixel on or off is pretty much the difference between a boxy masculine shape and an uncanny wasp waist.

[Mesa]

Huh?
No, I haven't, though I might at one point.

Speaking of that map, a bit of fiddling got me a bit more awesome and more atmospheric version (if only from a desert during daytime it turned into nighttime winter), which you could see in the character group shot.

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Also, making weapons on this scale is hard. Either that or I can't draw SMGs.

[ShadowHammer]

Here's a random thing I made for a game I will soon be running. Advice on how to be less bad at pixelart would be greatly appreciated.

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