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Arx

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Re: Random Things you drew/shopped/made/etc.
« Reply #2205 on: May 05, 2014, 12:13:56 pm »

Aaand work in slightly less progress.

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It's probably got all the bits, now. Might change the sky. Now for refiiinements...

I'd appreciate any help, especially regarding folds in clothing, and depth.
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« Reply #2206 on: May 05, 2014, 12:50:16 pm »

I can provide dialog.

Death: "Hey. You got shot. You're dead."
Soldier: "Shut up, death, I'm fighting in World War One! Give me a minute."
Death: "Okay, okay, I'll wait. Just be quick about it."

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« Reply #2207 on: May 05, 2014, 12:51:59 pm »

Hm... probably need to paint in edges of fabric and such with a higher-hardness brush. Edges look too blurry, and you need discontinuities for folds, basically. Especially on those pants, with the raised leg. Functionally, that's very similar to a very large fold, where the lighting and shading is going to make the difference where you can't do it by just drawing the shape, thanks to perspective and suchlike.
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“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
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Arx

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« Reply #2208 on: May 05, 2014, 12:54:24 pm »

Blurry edges are a recurring problem I get.  I'll have a go at that. And by discontinuities you mean...?

Also, dialog:

Death: Uh, you dropped your grenade. *Taps on shoulder
Soldier: Aaaaaaaaaaaagh! *Dies
Death: ...Oops.
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Re: Random Things you drew/shopped/made/etc.
« Reply #2209 on: May 05, 2014, 01:48:22 pm »

How is death holding that scythe? Is it tucked under his arm...?
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« Reply #2210 on: May 05, 2014, 02:03:45 pm »

How is death holding that scythe? Is it tucked under his arm...?

Ayup. And because it feels deeply wrong to make a one-word post, here's a slightly improved version:

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I shaved his legs and I think I managed to slightly improve the folds, but bleh.
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« Reply #2211 on: May 05, 2014, 02:28:54 pm »

That seems a very odd way to hold it to me. To me, logically, he'd rest it on his shoulder.
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« Reply #2212 on: May 05, 2014, 10:26:28 pm »

So this guy's about to get shot?
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« Reply #2213 on: May 06, 2014, 12:55:24 am »

Ah, by discontinuities I mean places where a shade suddenly stops. Basically, if you're looking at a fold, the lighting at its most raised edge is probably going to be different from the lighting on the fabric immediately behind it.

Here's a really extreme example in pretty much every respect (your fabric is neither this wrinkly nor this shiny, but its wrinkles are liable to be less flowing as well - these are really folds, but those are basically just overblown wrinkles, if you think about it).

So, in cyan is the subtlest thing - you can see from lower down that that's an edge continuing up, but the lighting isn't so strong as to give it a hard line. But your eye can still follow it because the lighting on the upper surface is lighter than on the lower, because they're at different places in space, even if they're adjacent in the image.

In green, you've got highlights. Nothing particularly fancy, that's just how wrinkles look when you can see both sides of the peak because you're looking at it top-down, and it doesn't flop back over itself.

In blue, you've got a more sharply defined edge than the one in cyan. That's what you wind up with when the lighting on the fold starts to go to shadow from your perspective, but the fabric directly behind it is fully lit.

Note that I am bad at explaining things because I haven't had a formal art education that involved this kind of thing since the 10th grade, and I spent most of that playing Scorched Earth 2000. So if my terminology is confusing or something, let me know. Also, in your improved version, it looks like he's lit from below - is that intentional? The lightest parts of his uniform are the bottom edges, and his leg seems to cast a shadow upward. I think the perspective on that shadow could also use some lining up with that of the edge of the leg itself - that shadow is literally the only thing telling your brain how long his thigh is, and right now it feels off, like it's at an impossible angle or something.
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In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6.
“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
“So that the room will be empty.”
At that moment, Sussman was enlightened.

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« Reply #2214 on: May 06, 2014, 01:06:43 am »

You are just fine at explaining! Thank you. I will do some more work today, hopefully improve it a bit.

Edit: example image is 666 pixels wide, Bauglir confirmed for Antichrist.
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« Reply #2215 on: May 06, 2014, 03:15:05 am »

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« Reply #2216 on: May 06, 2014, 03:16:27 am »


Let's see in what direction this goes.
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« Reply #2217 on: May 06, 2014, 04:34:21 am »

That seems a very odd way to hold it to me. To me, logically, he'd rest it on his shoulder.

He's got it in the crook of his arm for a moment, so he can use his other hand. I was trying to think how to explain it but I couldn't do it more thoroughly than that, so have a mannequin with a chopstick:

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So this guy's about to get shot?

Shot/shelled/aneurysm'd/stroke'd/rapid-onset typhoid'd/Any number of bad things'd.
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« Reply #2218 on: May 06, 2014, 03:26:22 pm »

I still push onward in my world-building (the war-mages have a better back story, although not finished).
This time in the form of human clothing. The setting is pseudo-Roman fantasy, so the clothes have to look the part.

I was watching a movie during class when I had this idea, and I drew out a slightly more humanly proportioned picture for it.
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If you try hard enough, you could probably learn something about drug addiction by reading through the paper :P. I might rescan with some extra sheets behind it.
I do also have an idea for male clothing, but I have yet to get around to it.
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« Reply #2219 on: May 06, 2014, 08:51:29 pm »

I really like all three of those pictures, coolio. Just a slight nitpick, though: the 'summer' guy's laurels are hard to see because they're the same colour as his hair. Unless, of course, the laurels are actually a braid, in which case it's perfectly fine.

Fakeedit: looking closer, I'm now pretty sure it's a braid.
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