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[Gentlefish]

That keyboard had both a thumbs-up and a thumbs-down.


Why did keyboards evolve away from that?

[Maklak]

> I used the FLTK library (which I had experience with from a class) to build a nice, small chess program.
Yeah, I hear you. Last time I compiled FLTK under MinGW, it took me 2 days to resolve everything and get it to a state where almost none of the examples crashed.

As for a missing library, try copying it to the same directory as executable. You might also want to test that program on some computer with relatively fresh Windows install, because some library will almost certainly be missing.

A major weakness of C++ is how small the standard library is. There are third party libraries for everything else, but they present all kinds of problems, even when they claim being portable. A big part of success of java and .NET is that they have huge standard libraries, with gui toolkits and everything. 

Also, how is it that under Linux things just work and under windows they don't?

[Another]

Memorize exactly one command in vi[m] anyway:
:q!

"nano" or "notepad" are perfectly fine to get some really quick editing done in a pitch and one of them is now present almost everywhere.

[Telgin]

They both seem hard to learn to use. And I'm not sure of the benefits.

I'd recommend at least learning how to edit and save files with vi.  That's only 3-4 commands that you'll need to learn, and should cover almost any emergency situation in which you find yourself with a Linux terminal and no other way to edit a text file you need to modify.  There's not a lot of compelling reason to use vi for heavy duty editing given the alternatives readily available.  I don't know much about emacs, so I can't comment on it.

[Skyrunner]

Git has basically forced me to learn how to edit and save files with Vim.

Basically, the only command I use is :wq.

[The Darkling Wolf]

Hell, I did the vast majority of my initial work on Cataclysm with nano, 's perfectly adequate.

[MagmaMcFry]

Git has basically forced me to learn how to edit and save files with Vim.

Wut? How is Vim necessary/good for Git?

[Skyrunner]

Git has basically forced me to learn how to edit and save files with Vim.

Wut? How is Vim necessary/good for Git?

Git defaults to using vim, at least on windows. It does on my version of Linux Mint, too. And I'm too lazy to try to change it xD

[Mego]

> I used the FLTK library (which I had experience with from a class) to build a nice, small chess program.
Yeah, I hear you. Last time I compiled FLTK under MinGW, it took me 2 days to resolve everything and get it to a state where almost none of the examples crashed.

As for a missing library, try copying it to the same directory as executable. You might also want to test that program on some computer with relatively fresh Windows install, because some library will almost certainly be missing.

A major weakness of C++ is how small the standard library is. There are third party libraries for everything else, but they present all kinds of problems, even when they claim being portable. A big part of success of java and .NET is that they have huge standard libraries, with gui toolkits and everything. 

Also, how is it that under Linux things just work and under windows they don't?

With Linux, installing gcc is simple. Just pull it from your favorite package manager. On Windows, you either have to use the clusterfuck that is MSVC, or use MinGW or Cygwin gcc, each of which comes with its own portability issues.

[MagmaMcFry]

Git has basically forced me to learn how to edit and save files with Vim.

Wut? How is Vim necessary/good for Git?

Git defaults to using vim, at least on windows. It does on my version of Linux Mint, too. And I'm too lazy to try to change it xD

Oooh, does Git start vim when you need to merge something? I wouldn't know about that, my repos are all solo and linear.

[Mephisto]

I guess it's a setting that I've got. When I need to merge, Git marks up the file telling what's in the current branch and what's in the branch I'm merging with and lets me open the file in my editor of choice to resolve it.

The only time Git uses my default editor is when I commit.

[miauw62]

Git has basically forced me to learn how to edit and save files with Vim.

Wut? How is Vim necessary/good for Git?

Git defaults to using vim, at least on windows. It does on my version of Linux Mint, too. And I'm too lazy to try to change it xD

Oooh, does Git start vim when you need to merge something? I wouldn't know about that, my repos are all solo and linear.

I just use tortoisegit ;_;

(You still need Git Bash for some things like cherrypicking commits off branches that have been fucked up, and I think that brings up a vim-like window? I don't really know what emacs or vim even are )

[MagmaMcFry]

The only time Git uses my default editor is when I commit.

That would be nano on my Linux Mint, and I didn't fiddle with any settings. Also you can skip that editor if you use the -m flag.

[ECrownofFire]

A major weakness of C++ is how small the standard library is. There are third party libraries for everything else, but they present all kinds of problems, even when they claim being portable. A big part of success of java and .NET is that they have huge standard libraries, with gui toolkits and everything. 

C++ is not even close to the same domain and use cases as Java or C#.

[Siquo]

C++ is not even close to the same domain and use cases as Java or C#.

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Java has no use cases.