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[olemars]

Android (and by extension, Ouya) isn't java only. If you want high performance on anything cpu-intensive you'll have to break out the NDK. The android games and apps are mainly java since you don't really need to do much optimmization to get angry birds or tetris clones to run well. Other things are already accelerated underneath the java API layer, like video decoding.

C and C++ have different use cases. C is good for doing low-level things with a high-level language. Like when you need precise control on memory allocation or predictability on what asm code the compiler outputs, typically driver development and system kernels. Look up what Linus Torvalds has to say about C++ for instance (keeping in mind that he only cares about system-level development).
C++ is good for when you want the advantages of a compiled language, but also a maintainable user interface and access to 3rd party API's. And it's not anywhere near being threatened by replacement in that role.

[Virex]

yeah, I know scripting languages don't have to compile, but we were comparing C and C++.
if you think C++ is almost past its prime for the game industry, what do you think is going to replace it?
and don't say Java,.

The bulk of the gaming industry right now is in apps and light-weight games, like angry birds and other 'casual' stuff. These kinds of games are more often written in Javascript, Java, Python or Lua. C++ Is of course used in more advanced games, but they're by no means the only games that matter. Of course, for AAA+ titles, or anything intensive, there's no replacement for C++, as you pretty much need manual memory management for those kinds of games.

[Killjoy]

I have a feeling Java is going to be coming up in the world here soon though,
what with Android games being Java,
and that dumb box, Ouya or whatever it's called, that indie game console, is going to be Java only,
and Nvidia's new game console is going to be mainly Java based.

Java is already being used practically everywhere in the business world. It scales very well into the cloud, and the newer iterations of it, with higher quality JIT compilation actually performs stupidly well..

The bulk of the gaming industry right now is in apps and light-weight games, like angry birds and other 'casual' stuff. These kinds of games are more often written in Javascript, Java, Python or Lua. C++ Is of course used in more advanced games, but they're by no means the only games that matter. Of course, for AAA+ titles, or anything intensive, there's no replacement for C++, as you pretty much need manual memory management for those kinds of games.

Yes aaaannd.. No.
Modern games pretty much all run on engines. These engines more often than not manage their own virtual machine optimized specifically for games. Unless you are programming game engines, the trend is going towards less C++ and C, and more towards higher level languages.

C++ itself is also trending towards more of a hybrid between C and a managed languaged. With all it smart pointers/containers, and Iterator patterns that are adopted directly into the language as a feature now.

[MorleyDev]

And Java is losing a lot of ground to C# in the business world. In the UK the majority of jobs I've seen going for programmers are looking for C# programmers.

For a crude look:
Software Developer on a UK Jobsite returns 1795 matches
Software Developer .NET, 852 matches.
Software Developer C#, 765 matches.
Software Developer Java, 513 matches.
Software Developer C++, 215 matches.

[Killjoy]

And Java is losing a lot of ground to C# in the business world. In the UK the majority of jobs I've seen going for programmers are looking for C# programmers.

I don't think it is loosing ground. There a A LOT of old software running on .net, so many bigger companies hire a lot of C# people to maintain those codebases.
That does explain the stupid big amount of .net applicants we get at my company.

Either way, Java and C# are very similar in my opinion. It is not hard to get into the other once you know one.

[cerapa]

Damn I love simplex noise.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Notice that pixel on the top left of the right picture? Thats the island on the left picture.

Now I just gotta find a way to actually do something with this.

[MagmaMcFry]

That is some awesome simplex noise you have there.

[Mego]

C++ itself is also trending towards more of a hybrid between C and a managed languaged. With all it smart pointers/containers, and Iterator patterns that are adopted directly into the language as a feature now.

The great thing about updates like those is, you don't have to use them if you don't want/need to. You can write a C program in C++, and it will be functional (ba-dum tish). Except for name-mangling, of course, but that can be controlled by using C-style linkage (via extern "C"). Most of those shiny new features are useful for the programmer, so you don't have to write as much code, but won't make an impact on performance (thanks to optimization during compile time).

[Capntastic]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGOH0mZ6hPA

[MorleyDev]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGOH0mZ6hPA

Erm, I have no idea what I am looking at... :S A programmed smart watch of some description?

[Capntastic]

LCD screen from a cell phone

Edit:  This one --> here

[Euld]

Oh that's right we do have a programming thread!  I have a question.  I've been learning C#, specifically for doing stuff in Unity.  I'm starting to like coding quite a bit, and I seem to have a decent understanding of it... which other languages should I start learning if I want to get into making games?

[Max White]

Big games such as the AAA market produces? C++
Otherwise, Java is a great option. Also, Java is very similar to C#.
Otherwise, if you want to develop for Windows Xbox, C# is a very feasible option.

[Siquo]

LCD screen from a cell phone

Edit:  This one --> here

That's pretty nifty. Also love the "smartphone fad"-jab
So what're you making with it? Or just trying things out?

[MagmaMcFry]

Wrote a Gomoku clone for an assignment. Wrote it in a single day, because I only found out about it on Saturday, and it was due today. I think I did pretty well, since a graphical display wasn't even part of the requirements.

Edit: Here's the link.