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[Stargrasper]

I can take a look if you'd like.  We've established that I don't know C#, but based on experience from other languages and Google, I should be able to read your code just fine.  I can probably find problems and say how to address them in a generalized sense.  Just don't expect me to be able to give you C# code that fixes it.

[Max White]

I would raise my hand, but my internet renews tomorrow. It has been a long week without it, but I can start doing that sort of a thing tomorrow...

Might put up a copy of my current code if anybody wants to brows.

[Stargrasper]

I would raise my hand, but my internet renews tomorrow. It has been a long week without it, but I can start doing that sort of a thing tomorrow...

Might put up a copy of my current code if anybody wants to brows.

I always love seeing other peoples' code.  It's enlightening to see something someone did gracefully and realize how much of an idiot I am for not thinking of that.

[kaenneth]

I would raise my hand, but my internet renews tomorrow. It has been a long week without it, but I can start doing that sort of a thing tomorrow...

Might put up a copy of my current code if anybody wants to brows.

I always love seeing other peoples' code.  It's enlightening to see something someone did gracefully and realize how much of an idiot I am for not thinking of that.

I can't wait until I get to do a technical interview of someone. Because I'll have them try and figure out what this bit of code I wrote does:

while ((r = ((x ^ n) & ~(c ^= ((n <<= 1) >> 2)))) < x);

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        // Adds one to the given integer, using efficent binary operators.
        static public int AddOne(int x)
        {
            // Use MinValue of an int as a flag,
            // since that cannot possibly be the result after adding one.
            int r = int.MinValue;

            // Start with empty carry bits.
            int c = 0;

            // Start by toggling the least signifigant bit.
            int n = 1;

            // Check for invalid input
            if (x == int.MaxValue)
            {
                // If the input value was invalid, throw an exception.
                throw new Exception("Cannot AddOne to int.MaxValue!");
            }

            // Add one to x;
            while ((r = ((x ^ n) & ~(c ^= ((n <<= 1) >> 2)))) < x);
           
            //Return the result
            return r;
        }

[Aqizzar]

Well, I guess if people are offering to help, I'll throw it up then.

Mediafire Link

So here's the whole process map, to find what's going wrong.

1) MainBodyMethod in Program.cs establishes a new MapObject.

2) The MapObject constructor calls the placeholder method GenerateMap(), which calls the MakeDefaultUnderground() method from its established generator (MapGenerator.cs).  The argument determines how many cells (in the x-dimension) the map should have (and should only by 3 or 4).

3) MakeDefaultUnderground (in MapGenerator.cs) randomly determines which cells should have rooms in them, and counts through the map, calling the MakeDefaultUndergroundPattern class (no really) with arguments for whether the room should be long, tall, or square.

4) MakeDefaultUndergroundPattern randomly determines what size room to make (and seems to work fine), and feeds that data to make a new RoomObject.  Later when the RoomObject comes back, it calls the ReconcileRooms function to draw the RoomObject's data into the MapObject's overall array (this also seems to work fine).

5) The RoomObject constructor (in its .cs) passes that data to DrawDefaultUndergroundRoom (don't judge me) which fills in a properly sized array of MapTiles with the walls and floors for a room, then calls the AddDoors function to edit itself.

6) AddDoors is supposed to generate and shuffle an array to tell it which side to put a door on, then count down that side a random distance and place a door.  I currently have it set up so the Room-drawing class feeds a random number of doors to the AddDoors method, but I originally had it inside AddDoors.  This appears to be where everything is going wrong for no good reason, because I'm getting this cockamamie result no matter which way I set things up.


So yeah, good luck and godspeed guys.  I am completely and totally stumped, and I really don't want to be stumped, both because I'd really like Rooms to be objects now and not revert back to my original design, and also because as I said before, it was exactly this sort of seemingly-unsolvable "error" that scared me out of programming the first time around.

[MaximumZero]

Okay, so you guys are making me feel like an idiot. I'm going to attempt to remedy that by asking a question:

What should I learn to make vidja gaems? I have a semester of C++ and VB apiece under my belt and feel like I haven't learned anything of use. I have a tenuous grasp of loops and the very basics like functions and whatnot, but that's about it. Sifting through the ocean of information on the internet is more frustrating than helpful, as I really don't know what I'm supposed to be learning to do useful things, like music and getting artwork onscreen and whatnot. Where do I start, B12?

[Levi]

Okay, so you guys are making me feel like an idiot. I'm going to attempt to remedy that by asking a question:

What should I learn to make vidja gaems? I have a semester of C++ and VB apiece under my belt and feel like I haven't learned anything of use. I have a tenuous grasp of loops and the very basics like functions and whatnot, but that's about it. Sifting through the ocean of information on the internet is more frustrating than helpful, as I really don't know what I'm supposed to be learning to do useful things, like music and getting artwork onscreen and whatnot. Where do I start, B12?

Roguelikes are a good start! 

http://roguebasin.roguelikedevelopment.org/index.php/Complete_Roguelike_Tutorial,_using_python%2Blibtcod 


Aquizzar:  I think I see the problem, but it'll take me a few mins to install a c# compiler and test it.

[Sirus]

What if I wanted to make an RPG that used classic JRPG mechanics (turn-based combat and the like)? What language would anyone recommend for that?

I tried the RPG Maker series, and it's ok. The problem is that you need to know how to code to do anything nifty, and the maker offers no clue into how the coding works.

[Max White]

What should I learn to make vidja gaems?

What sort of games? XNA is pretty sexy and ports right over to XBox.

Anyway, I must have gone retarded. Seriously, there is no other explanation.

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        public static void BuildFloor(int x, int y, int width, int height, Tile floorTile, ref Tile[,,] map, int floor)
        {
            while (x < width)
            {
                while (y < height)
                {
                    map[x, y, floor] = floorTile.Clone();
                    y++;
                }
                x++;
            }
        }

is being invoked with

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BuildFloor(2, 3, 20, 20, floorTile, ref tiles, 0);

So I'm expecting a square that is 20 * 20, with a top left position of (2, 3)
For some reason it just make a rectangle 1 * 20.
THE FUCK?!?!?

[Aqizzar]

So I'm expecting a square that is 20 * 20, with a top left position of (2, 3)
For some reason it just make a rectangle 1 * 20.
THE FUCK?!?!?

Gee I dunno, because you should reset Y before it's while loop?  That way it'll count down again.

Whaddaya know, I can catch some bugs too.  Just really really obvious ones.  I'm contributing!

[Max White]

...

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGUI[JKJ;TRLKSJGNMKR;LDSNGLGRSEMPOTGJSREILJMREPWASBHFRLJSGTRMNI[TNISTOIROFGTGJRGTRGSGR=NJG;LN;JKGL

Thank you.

[Mego]

@Aqizzar: Downloaded, I'll be intensely staring at it for a little bit and hopefully will figure out something.

@MaximumZero: This and this are both good tutorial websites. I used the former when I was first learning, and the latter to learn concepts that the former didn't cover well (classes, pointers, structs and unions), as well as a language reference when I don't remember how something in the standard library works.

@Max White: Happens to the best of us. Nested loops for iterating over map tiles (or points on a graph) make me have to stop and think really hard.

[MaximumZero]

What should I learn to make vidja gaems?

What sort of games? XNA is pretty sexy and ports right over to XBox.

See my sig for the answer to that. Other than that, I have a couple hundred ideas floating around.

[Aqizzar]

@Aqizzar: Downloaded, I'll be intensely staring at it for a little bit and hopefully will figure out something.

Don't feel like you're under any obligation to help me or anything, I'm just stumped and when I'm frustrated I stay stumped.  I won't be back to work on it for six hours anyway, so feel free to mess with it all you like.

[Stargrasper]

Okay, so you guys are making me feel like an idiot. I'm going to attempt to remedy that by asking a question:

What should I learn to make vidja gaems? I have a semester of C++ and VB apiece under my belt and feel like I haven't learned anything of use. I have a tenuous grasp of loops and the very basics like functions and whatnot, but that's about it. Sifting through the ocean of information on the internet is more frustrating than helpful, as I really don't know what I'm supposed to be learning to do useful things, like music and getting artwork onscreen and whatnot. Where do I start, B12?

There's really no particular reason you can't make a great game in VB or C++ if you already know the basics of them.  If you want to learn something new, Python is easy to learn and if you've paid any attention to this thread, you know I'm a fan of Java.  Pick a language.  We'll teach you what you need to know.  The OP has links to most, if not all, of the tutorials we've produced in this thread.  Regardless, at least skim over my Java tutorials.  They give examples in Java but also give a lot of conceptual information that is mostly language-agnostic.  That is, its conceptual information that is valid for a lot of programming in general.

What if I wanted to make an RPG that used classic JRPG mechanics (turn-based combat and the like)? What language would anyone recommend for that?

I tried the RPG Maker series, and it's ok. The problem is that you need to know how to code to do anything nifty, and the maker offers no clue into how the coding works.

If I'm remembering right, RPGMaker uses Ruby as it's programming language.  Best I can tell you.

Aqizzar - I'm getting to yours.  There's a lot I need to do right now.

What's with this thread?  I think the last seven replies were written while I typed this!  I know, I write replies slowly because I carefully consider what to write and re-read it five times, but still!