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SuicideJunkie

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Hauling Magma
« on: January 01, 2012, 10:39:33 pm »
I accidentally made some buckets out of nether-cap wood in my latest fort with some underground pastures.
Then, I realized - hey... these would be perfect for hauling magma.

Even normally magma-safe materials made into buckets might burn your dwarves as the heat transfers, but nether cap would solve that problem neatly.

Who needs boiling oil when you could just designate a magma pond on the edge of the walls? :)
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Re: Hauling Magma
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2012, 10:54:09 pm »
Quote from: SuicideJunkie on January 01, 2012, 10:39:33 pm
I accidentally made some buckets out of nether-cap wood in my latest fort with some underground pastures.
Then, I realized - hey... these would be perfect for hauling magma.

Even normally magma-safe materials made into buckets might burn your dwarves as the heat transfers, but nether cap would solve that problem neatly.

Who needs boiling oil when you could just designate a magma pond on the edge of the walls? :)

Wouldn't it be incredibly heavy though? I have a mental image of lava being very heavy and difficult to carry, seeing as it's molten rock.
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Re: Hauling Magma
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2012, 11:03:17 pm »
Dwarves already lug massive nuggets of platinum and lead around with reckless abandon, why not a tiny wooden bucket of liquid rock?
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Re: Hauling Magma
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2012, 11:14:14 pm »
Quote from: Doomshifter on January 01, 2012, 11:03:17 pm
Dwarves already lug massive nuggets of platinum and lead around with reckless abandon, why not a tiny wooden bucket of liquid rock?

Indeed, I don't know why I thought platinum would be any easier to carry than a bucket of lava. I support this suggestion wholeheartedly. It's a good idea.
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Re: Hauling Magma
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2012, 11:52:41 pm »
Doesn't matter that Nether-cap's cold, wouldn't it still melt if it was holding magma? It melts when it's thrown in magma, and keep in mind ice also melts despite being cold.
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Re: Hauling Magma
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2012, 04:18:54 am »
What about a pot made out of magma save stone with a nether cap mantle?
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Re: Hauling Magma
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2012, 04:24:52 am »
Magma haulers could have fun accidents.
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Re: Hauling Magma
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2012, 04:44:35 am »
Ha, yeah.   Hot potato! Hot potato! 

What I wanna know from Toady is.  Why can't we assign a pit or a pond to be created out of solid obsidian blocks.  In a scorching biome; that should return it to magma by turning back, minus the water, the obsidian into magma, shouldn't it?  If it were outdoors, in the summer sun, without lotion, the top layers should at least bubble.

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Re: Hauling Magma
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2012, 05:48:11 am »
Magma is just hot rock. Why would cooling it make it hot when it left the bucket.
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Re: Hauling Magma
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2012, 07:05:28 am »
Yes, it makes no sense at all.
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Re: Hauling Magma
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2012, 12:10:18 pm »
Quote from: FallingWhale on January 02, 2012, 05:48:11 am
Magma is just hot rock. Why would cooling it make it hot when it left the bucket.

Wouldn't it just cool into obsidian around the sides of the bucket, effectively lining the nether cap bucket with obsidian and allowing you to carry the rest of the magma in a bucket? It surely wouldn't cool the entire bucket's contents.
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Re: Hauling Magma
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2012, 11:01:06 pm »
Quote from: Owlbread on January 02, 2012, 12:10:18 pm
Quote from: FallingWhale on January 02, 2012, 05:48:11 am
Magma is just hot rock. Why would cooling it make it hot when it left the bucket.

Wouldn't it just cool into obsidian around the sides of the bucket, effectively lining the nether cap bucket with obsidian and allowing you to carry the rest of the magma in a bucket? It surely wouldn't cool the entire bucket's contents.

Thermodynamics would disagree with you
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« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2012, 11:44:48 pm »
As we all know, deep pools never cool, and small puddles of magma evaporate... it only turns to obsidian when injected with water.
The nether cap would only melt if its temperature increased above its melting point, and since it is a fixed-temperature material it can't warm up.
Thermodynamics doesn't really apply these materials :)

Realistically, the rock crust on your magma would insulate it for a while, plenty long enough to carry it up the stairs and dump it on an invader.  Wouldn't be fun to clean the bucket after, though...
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« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2012, 09:08:58 am »
What next? Storing magma in steel barrels? The current magma behavior is highly illogical and you suggest even more weirdness.
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Re: Hauling Magma
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2012, 01:03:33 pm »
Magma drinks.
This is not minecraft, it makes no sense carring magma in WOODEN buckets.
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