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Author Topic: American Election Megathread - It's Over  (Read 763389 times)

FearfulJesuit

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Re: American Election Megathread - It's Over
« Reply #10530 on: January 01, 2013, 05:29:32 pm »

In other news, I became the 63rd person to like the Facebook page "Herman Cain 2016".

Let's make this happen. (In the primaries, at least).
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Re: American Election Megathread - It's Over
« Reply #10531 on: January 01, 2013, 05:46:48 pm »

In other news, I became the 63rd person to like the Facebook page "Herman Cain 2016".

Let's make this happen. (In the primaries, at least).

Pff I'm still voting jimmy mcmillan whether he runs or not.
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Re: American Election Megathread - It's Over
« Reply #10532 on: January 01, 2013, 05:53:30 pm »

I'm voting for Dread Cthulhu, and by "voting" I mean "blood sacrifice I'a! I'a!".
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Re: American Election Megathread - It's Over
« Reply #10533 on: January 01, 2013, 05:55:40 pm »

I didn't know concrete DoD cuts, direct cuts from programs, or the scrapping of certain Federal departments counted as "impossible to judge", but okay. Certainly easier to judge than "tax increases", which have no guaranteed associated increase in revenue whatsoever, though.

I counted the DoD cuts.  The other stuff was absurdly vague.
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Re: American Election Megathread - It's Over
« Reply #10534 on: January 01, 2013, 09:38:23 pm »

I didn't know concrete DoD cuts, direct cuts from programs, or the scrapping of certain Federal departments counted as "impossible to judge", but okay. Certainly easier to judge than "tax increases", which have no guaranteed associated increase in revenue whatsoever, though.

I counted the DoD cuts.  The other stuff was absurdly vague.

Such as? I was under the impression you were aware of at least some of the "proposals", all of which generally say exactly how much would be cut from each department.
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Re: American Election Megathread - It's Over
« Reply #10535 on: January 02, 2013, 01:49:21 am »

In other news, I became the 63rd person to like the Facebook page "Herman Cain 2016".

Let's make this happen. (In the primaries, at least).

Huntsman/Colbert, thankyouverymuch
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Re: American Election Megathread - It's Over
« Reply #10536 on: January 02, 2013, 02:18:40 am »

brain tick... must verify, may be confusing two distant candidates.

Yea, I was thinking of someone else.

Ignore me.
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Re: American Election Megathread - It's Over
« Reply #10537 on: January 03, 2013, 03:28:39 am »

I'm personally hoping Obama goes for the Platinum Coin option. Here's how it works:

1. Section K of 31 USC § 5112, the "Denominations, specifications, and design of coins" section of federal law reads as follows:
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The Secretary may mint and issue platinum bullion coins and proof platinum coins in accordance with such specifications, designs, varieties, quantities, denominations, and inscriptions as the Secretary, in the Secretary’s discretion, may prescribe from time to time.
That's it. That's the entire US law regarding what kind of platinum coins the Secretary of the Treasury can issue.
2. The President can make the Secretary of the Treasury mint coins by executive order.
3. If Obama wants, he can sign an executive order ordering the Secretary of the Treasury to issue four platinum coins worth one trillion dollars each.
4. Presto! The budget is now balanced due to a sudden influx of 4 trillion dollars into the Federal Reserve which can then be used to pay off outstanding treasury bonds and get rid of the debt that those represent, pushing congress miles away from the debt ceiling.
5. Everyone briefly flips their shit, but eventually calms down, just like when we went off the gold standard. Demand for treasury bonds goes up hugely, because the Treasury just did something big to say that they are super serious about being willing to pay back those bonds no matter how stupid Congress gets about the budget.
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Re: American Election Megathread - It's Over
« Reply #10538 on: January 03, 2013, 03:33:32 am »

That is crazy and would destroy the economy.
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Re: American Election Megathread - It's Over
« Reply #10539 on: January 03, 2013, 04:52:36 am »

Yeah, printing (or minting) that much money is going to devalue the dollar. It's just something you don't do on large scale anymore (except if you're Zimbabwe).

Actually, you could do it, but only with moderation. Another way is to have the Fed lend money at a very low rate to the US government. This way you don't increase total money in circulation a much as it's going to be paid back. Of course, you don't benefit much from that, as your interests rates are already rock-bottom.
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Re: American Election Megathread - It's Over
« Reply #10540 on: January 03, 2013, 06:32:37 am »

lol, platinum coin.

Yes, let's make a coin that the government says is worth 1 trillion/4 trillion/16 trillion dollars and pay off the debt with it. It's not like that could cause the (already tenuous) US dollar to collapse or anything.

The sad thing is that there are serious economists seriously advocating that, too.
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Re: American Election Megathread - It's Over
« Reply #10541 on: January 03, 2013, 08:15:11 am »

Obama seems to be thinking that if republicans let the sequester go through without more tax hikes then everyone will blame the republicans because they gave nothing away.  Obama will make offer after offer, the republicans will shoot the offers down and in the end it's the meanie republicans that everyone will (correctly blame).

My thinking is big fucking deal.  The republicans dont care that people will blame them, they have already hit rock bottom in the blame department.  But by letting the sequester go through in two months they can tank the economy and win the 2014 midterms.

How does Obama not understand at this point that he is dealing with nihilistic sociopaths?

So, in the midst of describing the Republicans as nihilistic sociopaths, you allege that Obama is playing the fiscal cliff like a hot potato, putting it into the hands of the Republican house and using the resulting damage to get everyone to blame the Republicans for the ensuing national misery. Interesting. And would not that political gain from sparking another recession be a little bit... nihilist or sociopathic, in itself? Is Obama somehow purer despite the rather chilling and unpatriotic motives that you impute to him, which sound a lot like the same motives that you impute to the Republicans?
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Re: American Election Megathread - It's Over
« Reply #10542 on: January 03, 2013, 09:19:16 am »

Nah, see, it's okay, because he's on our side.

It's only bad if the republicans use those tactics.
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Re: American Election Megathread - It's Over
« Reply #10543 on: January 03, 2013, 09:23:35 am »

So, in the midst of describing the Republicans as nihilistic sociopaths, you allege that Obama is playing the fiscal cliff like a hot potato, putting it into the hands of the Republican house and using the resulting damage to get everyone to blame the Republicans for the ensuing national misery. Interesting. And would not that political gain from sparking another recession be a little bit... nihilist or sociopathic, in itself? Is Obama somehow purer despite the rather chilling and unpatriotic motives that you impute to him, which sound a lot like the same motives that you impute to the Republicans?
Thanks for showcasing the talking point mainiac shot down! I too ♥ Obama, I hope we can be friends.
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Re: American Election Megathread - It's Over
« Reply #10544 on: January 03, 2013, 01:19:16 pm »

And we've got the House doing their own election - Pelosi vs Boehner. As a filthy commie leftist Marxist dirty liberal hippie, I'm naturally leaning for Pelosi, although I have to admit Boehner is a funny name.

It's rather amusing when the woman leading the thing (who is she?) calls on someone who's not there and is like, "[NAME] of [STATE]... [NAME]... [NAME]... [NAME], are you there?"
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