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Author Topic: American Election Megathread - It's Over  (Read 763386 times)

lemon10

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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #8010 on: November 05, 2012, 01:37:31 pm »

Map of poll closing times for future reference, all times listed as EST.

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That isn't a very useful map, since the times are all EST instead of in local times. I could see a fair number of people going "Oh, we can vote till 9PM", but then getting there and having the polling location closed for the past hour instead of open a hour longer.
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« Reply #8011 on: November 05, 2012, 01:39:02 pm »

It's useful for knowing when election results will start being reported, which is what it's purpose is.  People should really check their local news and sites for their own state's local times.
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« Reply #8012 on: November 05, 2012, 01:41:06 pm »

Trollheiming, let's make a bet. If Romney win, I'll sport a pro-romney avatar for the next year, if Obama win, I4ll choose a pro-Obama avatar for ya. How does it sound?

Kon, the offer is open to you too.
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« Reply #8013 on: November 05, 2012, 01:42:15 pm »

The one thing you can say about Romney is that he has a plan of action. The Obama administration had to squeeze their "plan" out after the third debate, and this is a guy who's in the hot seat for four years. And he publishes his plan after being hectored about having no plans.

So it's Romney going in for the big win tomorrow! Big win. You heard it here first.

Hitler also had a "plan of action" when he invaded Russia. Look how that worked.

Nobody's debating that he has a plan, but they're arguing his plan sucks. It's just more of the same policies that caused the meltdown. How can you fix the meltdown by doubling down on the same policies?

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« Reply #8014 on: November 05, 2012, 01:44:31 pm »

Really, Reelya?  A Godwin?  You're better than that. :P

And I think it's official, Trollheiming lives in his own little fantasy land.  "Big win"?  Seriously?  Big means over 55%+ either way, and that isn't going to happen in this political environment.
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« Reply #8015 on: November 05, 2012, 01:47:00 pm »

Holiday elections have not produced significant results in areas that they have been tested, and mail-in balloting sounds like it would be kind of difficult with that whole thing about your ballot being secret and anonymous.

I know we talked about this before, but I remember no one providing an example of a place that actually had "real" holiday elections being ineffective. They had state holiday elections being ineffective, from the states, but of course those are ineffective - for one thing, they aren't real holidays, and people don't get them off work, which is the whole point of the idea. (Unless you are a state employee, who is already not going to have a problem here. Its almost always floated specifically as a way to help the people who are least effected by state holidays, too, so not a real comparison.)

A federal holiday is something very very different, and you'd probably have to find an example in another country to demonstrate whether it is or is not effective (I honestly don't know) and I think that's where we last left the issue, without anyone being able to find a difference one way or another.

As for mail in ballots, there are states now which do the bulk of their ballots as mail-in, it hasn't been an issue so far as far as being secret and anonymous is concerned.
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« Reply #8016 on: November 05, 2012, 01:47:50 pm »

The Russia invasion gag was too good to pass on, I could easily put Napoleon in there instead, if it makes any difference.

Is it still a Godwin if you invoke Stalin / Mao / Napoleon etc?

BTW: I'm mystified why you guys don't just pick the first Saturday in November as the official date. Voting on a workday is just insanity.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #8017 on: November 05, 2012, 01:48:18 pm »

No, only nazis.
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« Reply #8018 on: November 05, 2012, 01:50:20 pm »

Trollheiming, let's make a bet. If Romney win, I'll sport a pro-romney avatar for the next year, if Obama win, I4ll choose a pro-Obama avatar for ya. How does it sound?

Kon, the offer is open to you too.

That's a bet
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« Reply #8019 on: November 05, 2012, 01:52:12 pm »

Really, Reelya?  A Godwin?  You're better than that. :P

And I think it's official, Trollheiming lives in his own little fantasy land.  "Big win"?  Seriously?  Big means over 55%+ either way, and that isn't going to happen in this political environment.

I predict 51% to 47%, Romney
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« Reply #8020 on: November 05, 2012, 01:53:20 pm »

Popular vote or electoral college?

Because a popular vote difference of that amount doesn't actually mean a Romney victory with the current layout.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #8021 on: November 05, 2012, 01:57:49 pm »

Yeah, why don't you guys just vote on Sunday?
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« Reply #8022 on: November 05, 2012, 01:58:03 pm »

That's at least a reasonable popular vote total.  A "big" win is unlikely either way, and since we're doing predictions.

Electoral:
Obama 303, Romney 235 Map
Popular:
Obama 50%, Romney 48%, Other 2%
Senate:
Democrats 54, Republicans 45, Other 1 (Ds pick up MA, NV, IN) (Rs pick up NE) (I pick up ME)
House:
Democrats+10 (Breakdown 230 R, 200 D)
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #8023 on: November 05, 2012, 01:58:25 pm »

Yeah, why don't you guys just vote on Sunday?

Well, Sunday would never work because it's the Lord's day, and half the country would have a cow.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #8024 on: November 05, 2012, 01:59:28 pm »

The Russia invasion gag was too good to pass on, I could easily put Napoleon in there instead, if it makes any difference.

Is it still a Godwin if you invoke Stalin / Mao / Napoleon etc?

BTW: I'm mystified why you guys don't just pick the first Saturday in November as the official date. Voting on a workday is just insanity.
Actually, it's only a Godwin if you invoke it without reason. For example, the previous comment would not be a Godwin if Romney's plans were similair to those of Hitler. (So if Romney's plan for economic revival is attacking Russia, or something else.)

Belgium's not a good example either, with voting being mandatory.  Prevents all that idiotism with states deliberately sabotaging people from voting(early) and such.

Yeah, why don't you guys just vote on Sunday?

Need to apply for extra forms and such, or so I understand. It's apparently a republican ploy to prevent Early voting as much as possible (Because Obama gets his votes from the working class, amongst others.)
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