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[Reelya]

One of the group's ads accuses Obama and Democrats of imploding the economy by forcing mortgage companies to lend to "unqualified borrowers" while the Soviet national anthem plays.

^ This is the biggest turd of a lie ever. People should look up the "American Dream Downpayment Act 2003". Bush signed a law paying the full downpayment costs of excluded home borrowers - people with credit defaults and no money.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

The Republican response to this is always to say "Jesus commanded people to give their money away, not to have the government serve as a middleman", and then "creatively reinterpret" the "rich man... needle" and "money... evil" bits.

In my experience they usually say that Jesus rewards the faithful with financial wealth, and that to reject that is rejecting him. Also that capitalism is Christian.

[Nadaka]

The Republican response to this is always to say "Jesus commanded people to give their money away, not to have the government serve as a middleman", and then "creatively reinterpret" the "rich man... needle" and "money... evil" bits.

In my experience they usually say that Jesus rewards the faithful with financial wealth, and that to reject that is rejecting him. Also that capitalism is Christian.

AKA the protestant work ethic.

[Bohandas]

Which do you think is a worse stain on our society, the Protestant Work Ethic or Traditional Family Values?

[MetalSlimeHunt]

The Republican response to this is always to say "Jesus commanded people to give their money away, not to have the government serve as a middleman", and then "creatively reinterpret" the "rich man... needle" and "money... evil" bits.

In my experience they usually say that Jesus rewards the faithful with financial wealth, and that to reject that is rejecting him. Also that capitalism is Christian.

AKA the protestant work ethic.

No, the protestant work ethic is a belief that Jesus wants you to work hard and accept your lot in life. It has also been used more secularly in recent years, usually when comparing US working conditions to that of Canada, Europe, or wherever.

What I'm describing is prosperity theology.

[Nadaka]

Yea, thats a lot more accurate. I don't think I can recall any instance where the two do not go hand in hand.

Edit: I totally forgot the "do not" in that sentance... oopsies

[Willfor]

My favourite response to segments of prosperity theology.

[Lord Shonus]

Does anyone else think that Romney shot himself in the foot (or maybe the face) with his recent attack on Jeep? Even the Detroit newspaper article endorsing him (which he crows endlessly about in his ads) roundly smashed his policy on the auto industry, and Chrysler itself called the claims idiotic. When something like 30%-40% of jobs in Ohio are linked to the auto industry (rough average estimate, it's around 75% in the northern cities, and less further south) that's a very nasty gaffe to make, especially since the main group he would be targeting  (independent voters who can understand the value of the industry) isn't going to automatically favor either side, while the secondary target (union autoworkers uncomfortable with the political affiliations of the union) are going to favor the existing policy under which they kept their jobs unless solid evidence is presented to them. The only group that might be inclined to believe the attack would be those that lost their jobs in the restructuring, most of whom were simply retired early.

[SealyStar]

Does anyone else think that Romney shot himself in the foot (or maybe the face) with his recent attack on Jeep? Even the Detroit newspaper article endorsing him (which he crows endlessly about in his ads) roundly smashed his policy on the auto industry, and Chrysler itself called the claims idiotic. When something like 30%-40% of jobs in Ohio are linked to the auto industry (rough average estimate, it's around 75% in the northern cities, and less further south) that's a very nasty gaffe to make, especially since the main group he would be targeting  (independent voters who can understand the value of the industry) isn't going to automatically favor either side, while the secondary target (union autoworkers uncomfortable with the political affiliations of the union) are going to favor the existing policy under which they kept their jobs unless solid evidence is presented to them. The only group that might be inclined to believe the attack would be those that lost their jobs in the restructuring, most of whom were simply retired early.

He didn't have a chance in Michigan to begin with. The west is absolutely Republican, but the east is more populous... and filled to the brim with union workers, minorities, and every other stereotypically Democratic demographic you can imagine.

I actually live in a very liberal postage stamp in the middle of a very conservative county... you can imagine how the city leaders feel about never getting a voice in higher-up politics.

[Kon]

My election prediction: Romney 317, Obama 221

[Leafsnail]

My election prediction: Obama 135, Romney 134, Leafsnail 270.

_{Wait am I getting "prediction" confused with "baseless fantasy" again?}

[kaijyuu]

Bahaha, who would vote for Leafsnail over me? You're delusional, man

[Eagle_eye]

I'd probably vote for you over Obama based on the views you've expressed here, actually.

[tryrar]

huh, I'm pretty sure I voted banana myself

[Lord Shonus]

Does anyone else think that Romney shot himself in the foot (or maybe the face) with his recent attack on Jeep? Even the Detroit newspaper article endorsing him (which he crows endlessly about in his ads) roundly smashed his policy on the auto industry, and Chrysler itself called the claims idiotic. When something like 30%-40% of jobs in Ohio are linked to the auto industry (rough average estimate, it's around 75% in the northern cities, and less further south) that's a very nasty gaffe to make, especially since the main group he would be targeting  (independent voters who can understand the value of the industry) isn't going to automatically favor either side, while the secondary target (union autoworkers uncomfortable with the political affiliations of the union) are going to favor the existing policy under which they kept their jobs unless solid evidence is presented to them. The only group that might be inclined to believe the attack would be those that lost their jobs in the restructuring, most of whom were simply retired early.

He didn't have a chance in Michigan to begin with. The west is absolutely Republican, but the east is more populous... and filled to the brim with union workers, minorities, and every other stereotypically Democratic demographic you can imagine.

I actually live in a very liberal postage stamp in the middle of a very conservative county... you can imagine how the city leaders feel about never getting a voice in higher-up politics.

It's Ohio that I'm talking about. He's been blitzing the state with his "Obama's selling Jeep to China" campaign for the past week.  Between the actual car companies, the parts suppliers for those companies, and various material refining and coal mining, this state is just as dependent on the auto industry as Michigan is.