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[Owlbread]

in 8 years we'll probably be inaugurating President Camacho

And we STILL won't have had a female president -.-

Also I think the whole being male thing woulda put it back into his court MZ.

It doesn't matter what their race, gender, orientation or whatever is, just their competence. If for the Americans getting the best president they can get over the next 40 years means having no female president for 20 years, I don't see a problem with that.

[RedKing]

Jesus H. Cristobal, what the herp is this derp? I leave for 8 hours of sleep, and find ten pages of....whatever the fuck that was.

But neither can you choose the one in front of him, for he knows he never had sexual relations, and only a great fool would choose but a BJ!

And you know he is not a great fool, and he knows that you know he is not a great fool, so clearly you cannot choose the one in front of you!

You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders -- "Never go against a guy from Arkansas when fellatio is on the line!" 


Right....so anyway, back to the horse race.
Nate Silver continues to see a small momentum gain for Obama, now forecasting 303-235, and giving Romney just a 19.1% chance to win.
Intrade is somewhat more subdued, but still giving Obama a 2/3 chance to win.
RCP's projection is 290-248, not that far behind Silver's.

And Republicans continue to insist that the entire math of polls and projections are fundamentally flawed/skewed/biased and in the words of Karl Rove four years ago, "They've got their numbers and I've got the RIGHT numbers." He was wrong, and so are they.

[GlyphGryph]

I don't actually understand how in-trade is legal. It is a blatant gambling ring. Can someone explain that to me?

[palsch]

I don't actually understand how in-trade is legal. It is a blatant gambling ring. Can someone explain that to me?

It's entirely legal in the Republic of Ireland. It just targets the US market compared to other betting sites. It requires that you declare any bets or deposits you make are legal. And such things aren't illegal in the US, although depositing money by credit/debit cards is.

And to be honest, Intrade is the baby brother of the betting markets. Betfair is the bigger British brother with more customers and action. Not to mention it gets less internet and media attention in the US by not accepting US customers, so people don't try to manipulate it as has happened to Intrade at least twice (including a pathetic attempt a few weeks ago).

It's worth following politicalbetting.com, although most articles are about the UK. They track all sorts of trends and stories alongside the betting markets and prices being offered for them. It's always interesting to see what prices the big bookies are offering on, say, the outcome of a leadership election that doesn't otherwise have any polling. The sorts of people who set the numbers or enter the markets tend to be pretty well informed, so these numbers can be as valuable as any poll.

[RedKing]

Because it's well known the Irish will wager bets on ANYTHING.

Besides, gambling in some form or another is legal in every US state except Hawaii and Utah (thank you, last night's episode of Jeopardy!)

[scriver]

Jesus H. Cristobal, what the herp is this derp? I leave for 8 hours of sleep, and find ten pages of....whatever the fuck that was.

But neither can you choose the one in front of him, for he knows he never had sexual relations, and only a great fool would choose but a BJ!

And you know he is not a great fool, and he knows that you know he is not a great fool, so clearly you cannot choose the one in front of you!

You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders -- "Never go against a guy from Arkansas when fellatio is on the line!" 

Or in the words of God Himself: Thou shallt never wank-a-bun with Our Lord Jesus Christ.

[Euld]

So Romney isn't just supported by for-profit schools, he benefits financially from their success and aims to let them get away with even more.

[GlyphGryph]

Besides, gambling in some form or another is legal in every US state except Hawaii and Utah (thank you, last night's episode of Jeopardy!)

But in the vast majority of them, it's only legal if its run by the government. Which InTrade obviously isn't.

Being based out of a country that allows gambling makes sense, of course. It just means it would be illegal for me to participate.

[Reelya]

So Romney isn't just supported by for-profit schools, he benefits financially from their success and aims to let them get away with even more.

Largely at the tax-payers expense (making up 86% of private university revenues according to that article), and Romney wants to abolish oversight of how they spend the money.

On the campaign trail, when asked what he would do about the rising cost of higher education, Romney pointed to a for-profit college, Florida's Full Sail University, as an innovator that knows how to "hold down the cost of their education."  Full Sail turns out to be the third most expensive college in America, with a mixed record of helping students and at least one program at risk of losing its eligibility for federal student aid because it leaves so many students deep in debt.

[Flying Dice]

That quote just brought my headache back from the sheer greed and stupidity of it.

[RedKing]

Don't worry...give it a week, and Romney will be against for-profit schools. Oh wait...a week might be too long.

[Reelya]

No, this is definitely something he will never flip-flop on. His son is a director of a company which invests in that industry (which makes it's money skimming off federal student grants). And, specifically, "Full Sail University".

As Republic Report and others have documented over the course of this year, Mitt Romney doesn't just accept money from these owners of for-profit colleges, he's also in business with them. Mitt Romney's son Tagg and campaign finance director Spencer Zwick run the private equity fund Solamere Capital, which was launched in 2008 with a $10 million investment from Mitt Romney and has an investment relationship with Bain Capital. TA Associates is one of the firms that Solamere Capital offers to its clients for investment. TA Associates owns not just Full Sail but a number of for-profit schools including troubled Vatterott Colleges, marked by exploitative recruiting practices and high student loan defaults. If TA gets richer, the Romneys get richer.

[Mephansteras]

Good news, everybody! By this time next week the elections will be long over and we can all enjoy our freedom from political ads and pre-recorded endorsements of candidates for a while!

(Just some good thoughts for a Friday)

[TripJack]

problem is, the majority of people appear to prefer to go for the guy with more charisma, not more competence.

well when both have no competence at all you have to go with charisma right?

hurp

[RedKing]

Good news, everybody! By this time next week the elections will be long over and we can all enjoy our freedom from political ads and pre-recorded endorsements of candidates for a while!

(Just some good thoughts for a Friday)

I'll also enjoy the rich, juicy schadenfreude of all the shell-shocked Republicans staggering around aimlessly Wednesday morning, in disbelief that Romney lost. Reap the whirlwind, motherfuckers! REAP IT!

I still have PTSD-like memories of 2004, meeting some friends for lunch and we all just kinda sat there not talking, each thinking, "Holy fuck, we have to put up with another FOUR YEARS of this walking disaster??"