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Author Topic: American Election Megathread - It's Over  (Read 767606 times)

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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #6870 on: October 17, 2012, 03:04:40 pm »
Meanwhile... voter registrations being dumped in dumpsters:  http://www.nbc29.com/story/19836183/investigation-launched-over-trashed-voter-registration-forms

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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #6871 on: October 17, 2012, 03:07:17 pm »
I honestly wish we still used the Electoral College system in the states. It held so much promise - but then, that's probably why it got gutted into into the state-by-state popularity system that still bears it's label today.

Just a musing I had today.
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« Reply #6872 on: October 17, 2012, 03:10:02 pm »
I think we should set the threshold for entering the debates at 1,000,000 party members and/or independent supporters. That's enough to be significant among the populace even if it is a minority.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #6873 on: October 17, 2012, 03:18:58 pm »
Set an equivalent threshold as a percentage of either population or registered voter, it'll be more durable then.
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« Reply #6874 on: October 17, 2012, 04:20:52 pm »
Quote from: Moghjubar on October 17, 2012, 03:04:40 pm
Meanwhile... voter registrations being dumped in dumpsters:  http://www.nbc29.com/story/19836183/investigation-launched-over-trashed-voter-registration-forms

Also, from http://notlarrysabato.typepad.com/doh/
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I suspect that much of the right's uproar over voter fraud is because they themselves continuously do it. Those tricksy Democrats are just really really really good at hiding it! /conservative logic

It's desperate projection on the part of the dishonest. They have to believe that everyone else is just as corrupt as they are because otherwise they'd have to do some soul searching.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #6875 on: October 17, 2012, 04:25:40 pm »
Coincidentally, the voter registration forms in the dumpster are in the same state that the GOP company was caught doing voter registration fraud. Any connection?

Or "both side do it" but they both only happen to get caught in North Carolina?

Scratch that, i google "Rockingham County" and it came back North Carolina. But Harrisonburg is in Virginia. I'm confused now, is there "Rockingham County" in more than 1 state?
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #6876 on: October 17, 2012, 04:26:55 pm »
So what happened to that one time when Bush won even though he had less votes?

I heard it mentioned once but I don't know what ended up happening after that. Nothing?
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #6877 on: October 17, 2012, 04:30:16 pm »
Quote from: GoombaGeek on October 17, 2012, 04:26:55 pm
So what happened to that one time when Bush won even though he had less votes?

I heard it mentioned once but I don't know what ended up happening after that. Nothing?

Essentially nothing. There was a recount, the margins were still incredibly slim and it basically fell to Gore to decide how much he wanted to bring the whole process to a grinding halt with further legal challenges. After the 1st (or was it the second?) recount, pressure started to mount for him to cede victory despite the appearance of impropriety.

I don't remember enough of it now to recall if they had explicit evidence of active voter fraud. Other than, you know, Florida, which has had questionable voting practices for a long time.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #6878 on: October 17, 2012, 04:31:14 pm »
How many votes you get isn't actually directly relevant to whether or not you win, either.
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« Reply #6879 on: October 17, 2012, 04:41:29 pm »
There was a polling firm hired in Florida which used out-of-state lists of felons to purge voter-rolls before the 2000 elections.

According to what i read they were instructed to "match" people with sort-of-similar names. e.g. "Micheal Johnson" from Florida is obviously the same as "John Michaels" a felon from Texas even if social security number or birth dates didn't match. The biggest list of names used to exclude people came from Texas.

From what i read, there was one and only one piece of demographic information which was never incorrectly applied - every person who was erroneously excluded was black.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Michael_Moore/Very_American_Coup_SWM.html

Michael Moore might be dubious to some, so here's the BBC from 2001

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/events/newsnight/1174115.stm

That claims 95% of the names excluded from the felon's list were wrong. 95% wrongly blocked from voting of 173,000 excluded people, in an election only separated by a couple of 1000.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #6880 on: October 17, 2012, 04:47:08 pm »
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #6881 on: October 17, 2012, 04:47:55 pm »
Quote from: Reelya on October 17, 2012, 04:25:40 pm
Coincidentally, the voter registration forms in the dumpster are in the same state that the GOP company was caught doing voter registration fraud. Any connection?

Or "both side do it" but they both only happen to get caught in North Carolina?

Scratch that, i google "Rockingham County" and it came back North Carolina. But Harrisonburg is in Virginia. I'm confused now, is there "Rockingham County" in more than 1 state?
Yeah, there are three of them, one of which is in Virginia.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #6882 on: October 17, 2012, 04:51:49 pm »
Romney finally releases the details on what "loopholes" he will use to fund his tax cuts.

http://www.romneytaxplan.com/
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #6883 on: October 17, 2012, 04:54:27 pm »
Was posted yesterday, still hilarious.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #6884 on: October 17, 2012, 04:59:05 pm »
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