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[Owlbread]

As a point of discussion, I was pondering whether we could see Romney come back again for 2016 if he loses in November. He might end up like McCain or Al Gore and just retreat from that whole scene. Who, among the Republican candidates, will we see? I had a thought that perhaps Ron Paul is calculating that if he keeps doggedly running for the nomination every time, building up his movement, he may eventually win because there's nobody else credible enough to do it.

[Zrk2]

At this point I think he's too old. He'd croak if he won.

But could you see a Paul/Paul ticket? That would be funny.

[Owlbread]

At this point I think he's too old. He'd croak if he won.

But could you see a Paul/Paul ticket? That would be funny.

He's auld, and he'd be 81 years old which would be a point of discussion and hubub, but he's still as energetic as ever right now at 77. If he's got a good vice presidential candidate by his side, you won't get a situation like we had with Sarah Palin and John McCain - she was only a heartbeat away from presidency.

[GoombaGeek]

At this point I think he's too old. He'd croak if he won.

But could you see a Paul/Paul ticket? That would be funny.

He's auld, and he'd be 81 years old which would be a point of discussion and hubub, but he's still as energetic as ever right now at 77. If he's got a good vice presidential candidate by his side, you won't get a situation like we had with Sarah Palin and John McCain - she was only a heartbeat away from presidency.

More like a heart attack away from presidency.

get it because McCain is really old

[Owlbread]

At this point I think he's too old. He'd croak if he won.

But could you see a Paul/Paul ticket? That would be funny.

He's auld, and he'd be 81 years old which would be a point of discussion and hubub, but he's still as energetic as ever right now at 77. If he's got a good vice presidential candidate by his side, you won't get a situation like we had with Sarah Palin and John McCain - she was only a heartbeat away from presidency.

More like a heart attack away from presidency.

get it because McCain is really old

Actually, that's the whole point of the expression "only a heartbeat away from the presidency" - if that heartbeat wasn't there, she'd be in.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

I would like to point out that McCain is still alive and kicking.

[Mego]

As a point of discussion, I was pondering whether we could see Romney come back again for 2016 if he loses in November. He might end up like McCain or Al Gore and just retreat from that whole scene. Who, among the Republican candidates, will we see? I had a thought that perhaps Ron Paul is calculating that if he keeps doggedly running for the nomination every time, building up his movement, he may eventually win because there's nobody else credible enough to do it.

You say that like Ron Paul is a credible candidate. I'm confused.

[SalmonGod]

The only problem is Ron Paul's eventual decline in health will probably be extremely unpredictable.  Energetic elderly like him tend to go strong until they just hit an invisible wall.  Both sides of my family are like this.  Age hardly seems to effect us until one day news breaks that "he's slowing down", which means a couple months left at most.  There's never a trigger, either.  It's like the sand just runs out, then bam.

[Zrk2]

Is Romney "credible"?

[kaijyuu]

If by "credible" you mean "has at least some chance of winning the presidency" then yes.

[Owlbread]

As a point of discussion, I was pondering whether we could see Romney come back again for 2016 if he loses in November. He might end up like McCain or Al Gore and just retreat from that whole scene. Who, among the Republican candidates, will we see? I had a thought that perhaps Ron Paul is calculating that if he keeps doggedly running for the nomination every time, building up his movement, he may eventually win because there's nobody else credible enough to do it.

You say that like Ron Paul is a credible candidate. I'm confused.

He's about as credible as Romney in the sense that he could actually run a campaign that would resonate with people. He represents more than he actually is. In some ways, he's a gift to the Republicans because not only does he support a lot of traditional republican values, he also resonates with a lot of young people. Mostly it's an either or.

[RedKing]

There's a lot of semi-credible GOP candidates who chose to sit this one out. Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, Tim Pawlenty, to name a few.

Don't know if it was discussed prior to the climate derail, but Obama's poor debate showing is hurting bigtime in the polls. New Pew poll has Romney at +4 nationally, while the aggregate national average stands at a mere +0.5 for Obama. Of course, the electoral map is not changed that much -- Obama still has a lock on about 251 votes, Romney on 181. Essentially, it's wiped out the gap created by Romney's 47% remark. Both men have a bit higher polling average than they did just before Romney's remark (the last time they were near-tied in the national polls), indicating that the undecided segment is shrinking rapidly. Most importantly though, Virginia, Ohio and Florida are back to being toss-ups. Interestingly though, so is North Carolina and according to some projections, Missouri.

Romney's path to the White House just got a little sunlight thrown on it, but it's still a very narrow road.

[GreatJustice]

As a point of discussion, I was pondering whether we could see Romney come back again for 2016 if he loses in November. He might end up like McCain or Al Gore and just retreat from that whole scene. Who, among the Republican candidates, will we see? I had a thought that perhaps Ron Paul is calculating that if he keeps doggedly running for the nomination every time, building up his movement, he may eventually win because there's nobody else credible enough to do it.

You say that like Ron Paul is a credible candidate. I'm confused.

He's about as credible as Romney in the sense that he could actually run a campaign that would resonate with people. He represents more than he actually is. In some ways, he's a gift to the Republicans because not only does he support a lot of traditional republican values, he also resonates with a lot of young people. Mostly it's an either or.

The problem with Ron Paul so far as electability goes is that, as already said, he's far too old. By 2016, he would be at an age where dropping dead mid campaign would be a risk. Politically speaking, I'd imagine his chances for success go up substantially each time the Republicans lose, but obviously he wouldn't be able to take advantage of that if he died.

My guess is that a younger, Paul-esque candidate will eventually do well in a Republican primary in the future, but that's more like 2020 or so.

[RedKing]

You mean, like Rand Paul?

[MonkeyHead]

Or RuPaul.