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Author Topic: American Election Megathread - It's Over  (Read 771589 times)

Moghjubar

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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #5475 on: September 18, 2012, 03:11:42 pm »

We're all Pathos. We just haven't held your induction ceremony yet.

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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #5476 on: September 18, 2012, 03:16:05 pm »

In this day and age, political parties have people that they hire to go on forums and websites and look for debates like this so they can make comments or tilt things in a particular direction. It's one of the many techniques the SNP used to gain an overall majority in Scotland and it is also (supposedly) being used by Scottish Labour on websites like the Scotsman Newspaper's (a very staunchly Unionist paper). If I'm correct techniques similar to it were used by the democrats in the run up to the 2008 election in the US of A.

I do know one person who seeks out political discussions in order to spread the word of Obama. But she is a true believer. It would be nice if she got paid for it though.


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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #5477 on: September 18, 2012, 04:28:18 pm »

Yeah...about those polls.  Other than Rasmussen Reports, most of them are HEAVILY skewed with a majority Democrat Party ID, matching or even exceeding that of 2008.  If you're expecting the same kind of enthusiasm from Democrats in 2012, I think you'll be in quite a surprise.

The crosstabs on the polls you were attacking uniformly gave republicans an advantage on the likely voter model.  So unless you are meaning to imply that the voter registration data itself is flawed then the truth of the matter is exactly the opposite of what you are saying.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #5478 on: September 18, 2012, 04:29:48 pm »

Yeah...about those polls.  Other than Rasmussen Reports, most of them are HEAVILY skewed with a majority Democrat Party ID, matching or even exceeding that of 2008.  If you're expecting the same kind of enthusiasm from Democrats in 2012, I think you'll be in quite a surprise.

The crosstabs on the polls you were attacking uniformly gave republicans an advantage on the likely voter model.  So unless you are meaning to imply that the voter registration data itself is flawed then the truth of the matter is exactly the opposite of what you are saying.

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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #5479 on: September 18, 2012, 04:45:57 pm »

Trolling forums does not strike me as an effective use of campaign manpower.  Face to face canvasing a voter in union with calling them three times tends to increase turnout by about 5%.  Back of the envelope I think that means that in an urban area an hour of volunteer time is worth about a vote and in an exurban it's worth about 2/3rds and in a rural area it's worth a decent fraction.  I have a real hard time seeing a forum troll producing 1 vote an hour.  Furthermore the forum troll wouldn't be producing votes in a swing district, they'd just be producing them among people all across the country reducing the value immensely, 90% if not more.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #5480 on: September 18, 2012, 04:57:48 pm »

Clearly, it is the work of the Conservative Crime squad using the 'Troll the interwebs" action, while having no computer skill.

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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #5481 on: September 18, 2012, 05:05:29 pm »

Brb, gonna ruin a traditional wedding first.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #5482 on: September 18, 2012, 05:10:05 pm »

Brb, gonna ruin a traditional wedding first.

Atta boy.

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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #5483 on: September 18, 2012, 05:22:41 pm »

All hes going to do is change it into a non-traditional wedding and force gay marriage upon everyone there.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #5484 on: September 18, 2012, 05:27:35 pm »

Why do people's definition of 'non-traditional marriage' always default to same sex marriage? What's wrong with a little polyamory among consenting adults?
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #5485 on: September 18, 2012, 05:28:59 pm »

And for that matter, what about downright weird weddings like those that are underwater or done while skydiving? Those are pretty non-traditional to me!
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #5486 on: September 18, 2012, 05:30:39 pm »

What's wrong with a little polyamory among consenting adults?

What did you think I meant?

Btw, both the groom and groom are now loves slaves for the liberal cause.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #5487 on: September 18, 2012, 05:35:07 pm »

Why do people's definition of 'non-traditional marriage' always default to same sex marriage? What's wrong with a little polyamory among consenting adults?

I'm game if I can find the right girl(s).
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #5488 on: September 18, 2012, 05:40:24 pm »

Trolling forums does not strike me as an effective use of campaign manpower.  Face to face canvasing a voter in union with calling them three times tends to increase turnout by about 5%.  Back of the envelope I think that means that in an urban area an hour of volunteer time is worth about a vote and in an exurban it's worth about 2/3rds and in a rural area it's worth a decent fraction.  I have a real hard time seeing a forum troll producing 1 vote an hour.  Furthermore the forum troll wouldn't be producing votes in a swing district, they'd just be producing them among people all across the country reducing the value immensely, 90% if not more.
But we were saying bad things about him, and you can't put a price on a man's honour.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #5489 on: September 18, 2012, 05:44:30 pm »

But we were saying bad things about him, and you can't put a price on a man's honour.

Back in 2010 the going rate was $24.85 individual or $20.09 wholesale but you are right that I don't know what the price is these days.
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