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[MetalSlimeHunt]

Well, Scotland and the States are in a significantly different situation. For example, the states weren't forced to accept annexation from another power after accidentally bankrupting themselves on a failed colonial venture. Local government isn't anywhere near as important to the US as it is to the UK.

[Owlbread]

Well, Scotland and the States are in a significantly different situation. For example, the states weren't forced to accept annexation from another power after accidentally bankrupting themselves on a failed colonial venture. Local government isn't anywhere near as important to the US as it is to the UK.

A-waitwaitwait. I don't mean to go off topic from the US politics, but we did not accept annexation from another power. That is incorrect. We accidentally bankrupted ourselves, which forced us to seek Union with England and create a new country. England and Scotland were both absorbed into the United Kingdom, neither annexed the other. Furthermore, we weren't really "forced" into it, it's just our parliament was ran by a parcel of rogues. There were ways of creating a new, more equal country that we could have taken but didn't, nor did we listen to the people who were strongly opposed to the idea of Great Britain. We actually had to enforce the Union on the people by banning journalists from criticising it in the papers because then they would be "going against the current of the people", "people" meaning some old aristocrats grown fat on English gold and lethargy.

It's just intriguing that the idea of autonomy is met with the reaction I've seen here, considering that the world over local autonomy is sought and seen as a good thing. Think about the wars we've seen being fought for it in Africa, mainland Europe, Russia, China, all sorts. Some of these wars haven't even been fought for independence, just "autonomy" of some kind.

But then again, I suppose states already have enough autonomy to be going on with.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

A-waitwaitwait. I don't mean to go off topic from the US politics, but we did not accept annexation from another power. That is incorrect. We accidentally bankrupted ourselves, which forced us to seek Union with England and create a new country. England and Scotland were both absorbed into the United Kingdom, neither annexed the other.

Eh, close enough. It isn't exactly a secret that England got the better deal there.

It's just intriguing that the idea of autonomy is met with the reaction I've seen here, considering that the world over local autonomy is sought and seen as a good thing. Think about the wars we've seen in Africa, mainland Europe, Russia, China, all sorts.

It depends upon the situation.

In general, higher local autonomy is better in a nation with multiple sharply distinctive cultural and ethnic groups. The UK fits this, of course.

The US doesn't. An American in Florida is as an American in California is as an American in Alaska is as an American in Maine. The biggest cultural deviancy in the US is that of the South, but even that is not far from mainstream American culture.

Europe is an interesting situation with the rise of the EU. We'll have to see how well that goes, but I don't think it has much of a prayer unless it takes more federal power for itself.

Africa has a different problem. It isn't about autonomy so much as it is that a lot of the modern borders were drawn by Europeans and it leaves African cultures divided or stuck in countries with other cultures that they hate. It's a clusterfuck, but its been getting better as time passes and people learn to live with one another and settle into new identities or redraw borders.

[Owlbread]

A-waitwaitwait. I don't mean to go off topic from the US politics, but we did not accept annexation from another power. That is incorrect. We accidentally bankrupted ourselves, which forced us to seek Union with England and create a new country. England and Scotland were both absorbed into the United Kingdom, neither annexed the other.

Eh, close enough. It isn't exactly a secret that England got the better deal there.

It's just intriguing that the idea of autonomy is met with the reaction I've seen here, considering that the world over local autonomy is sought and seen as a good thing. Think about the wars we've seen in Africa, mainland Europe, Russia, China, all sorts.

It depends upon the situation.

In general, higher local autonomy is better in a nation with multiple sharply distinctive cultural and ethnic groups. The UK fits this, of course.

The US doesn't. An American in Florida is as an American in California is as an American in Alaska is as an American in Maine. The biggest cultural deviancy in the US is that of the South, but even that is not far from mainstream American culture.

Europe is an interesting situation with the rise of the EU. We'll have to see how well that goes, but I don't think it has much of a prayer unless it takes more federal power for itself.

Africa has a different problem. It isn't about autonomy so much as it is that a lot of the modern borders were drawn by Europeans and it leaves African cultures divided or stuck in countries with other cultures that they hate. It's a clusterfuck, but its been getting better as time passes and people learn to live with one another and settle into new identities or redraw borders.

England did get the better deal... for a while at least, not anymore. We've got more autonomy than any other part of the UK now, joke's on them. Plus, it was our choice to go into that setup of a union. It's not like we were forced.

It's an interesting way of looking at it though, about local autonomy being geared mostly towards culture rather than just... power to the people, I suppose. Perhaps I'm too used to being spoon fed the official line about this sort of thing. The people who brought us all this autonomy were originally anti-nationalist socialists you see, who claimed it was all about local government and reducing the centralisation of the state. But I suppose if they really wanted to do that they wouldn't have put the border of that government area north of Berwick.

The problem with the act of redrawing borders though is we end up with situations like Azawad. The majority of the World Powers are western or far eastern and none approved of the secular nationalist Tuaregs taking power and creating the first berber state, so we completely ignored them. Now look what's happened to it.

[Leafsnail]

In the UK our head of state is technically the crown. So we kinda have that separation. Just that if the current monarch ever exercises any authority they are going to lose that power very quickly, so it's arguably completely imbalanced and should be replaced with a presidential system like France's. Although that would cause it's own political and constitutional problems.

Really the queen is more popular than any politician.  If she stood she'd probably win an election.

England did get the better deal... for a while at least, not anymore. We've got more autonomy than any other part of the UK now, joke's on them. Plus, it was our choice to go into that setup of a union. It's not like we were forced.

Regarding tuition fees especially.  Scottish students get their education for free, English students have to pay £9000 even if they're going to a Scottish university.  That last part is clearly against EU law so will probably be dropped soon, but I mean goddamn.

[Owlbread]

In the UK our head of state is technically the crown. So we kinda have that separation. Just that if the current monarch ever exercises any authority they are going to lose that power very quickly, so it's arguably completely imbalanced and should be replaced with a presidential system like France's. Although that would cause it's own political and constitutional problems.

Really the queen is more popular than any politician.  If she stood she'd probably win an election.

England did get the better deal... for a while at least, not anymore. We've got more autonomy than any other part of the UK now, joke's on them. Plus, it was our choice to go into that setup of a union. It's not like we were forced.

Regarding tuition fees especially.  Scottish students get their education for free, English students have to pay £9000 even if they're going to a Scottish university.  That last part is clearly against EU law so will probably be dropped soon, but I mean goddamn.

I know, it's great isn't it? Joking aside, I agree, it will have to be changed. But our system of free education won't be able to cope with the sheer influx of English students. There's enough of them already to take up a lot of spaces, imagine if it was free. The SNP are going to do whatever they have to do to keep our free education, mind you.

But the Queen is exceedingly popular at the moment. On the event of her death though, if her successor was somebody like Prince Charles or Prince Andrew, things would be quite different. I don't see any problems arising until after the death of King William, but only then if we get somebody quite unpopular.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

But the Queen is exceedingly popular at the moment. On the event of her death th-

There's you're problem.

Face it guys, your Queen became a vampire at some point. There is no other explanation for her unearthly longevity.

[Owlbread]

But the Queen is exceedingly popular at the moment. On the event of her death th-

There's you're problem.

Face it guys, your Queen became a vampire at some point. There is no other explanation for her unearthly longevity.

If you think she's lived a long time, didn't you see her mother? She was 101 when she died. Queen Elizabeth has diamond bones or something so she isn't going to die any time soon.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

But the Queen is exceedingly popular at the moment. On the event of her death th-

There's you're problem.

Face it guys, your Queen became a vampire at some point. There is no other explanation for her unearthly longevity.

If you think she's lived a long time, didn't you see her mother? She was 101 when she died. Queen Elizabeth has diamond bones or something so she isn't going to die any time soon.

She looks like she's in her late 50's and she's 86. I don't care how good your genes are, that isn't possible. She drinks the blood of the living to sustain her royal but abominable existence. There is simply no other way.

[Owlbread]

But the Queen is exceedingly popular at the moment. On the event of her death th-

There's you're problem.

Face it guys, your Queen became a vampire at some point. There is no other explanation for her unearthly longevity.

If you think she's lived a long time, didn't you see her mother? She was 101 when she died. Queen Elizabeth has diamond bones or something so she isn't going to die any time soon.

She looks like she's in her late 50's and she's 86. I don't care how good your genes are, that isn't possible. She drinks the blood of the living to sustain her royal but abominable existence. There is simply no other way.

The curse though is that she's looked like she's been in her late 50s for a very very long time. The royals grow into themselves. Charles on the other hand looks pretty rough these days, he's not going to keep as well.

[Leafsnail]

Inbreeding hits men a lot harder than women.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

At this rate Charles is going to die before Elizabeth.

I guess she didn't want to give him vampirism either.

[Owlbread]

Inbreeding hits men a lot harder than women.

That's very true.

[Willfor]

Three cheers for our vampire head of state. (Being Canadian, she is also my head of state)

I am hoping that Prince Charles simply steps aside and lets Prince William take the throne. I would really prefer to have King William on my money. I wouldn't mind having a twinned visage of King William and Queen Catherine on my money, actually...

[Owlbread]

Three cheers for our vampire head of state. (Being Canadian, she is also my head of state)

I am hoping that Prince Charles simply steps aside and lets Prince William take the throne. I would really prefer to have King William on my money. I wouldn't mind having a twinned visage of King William and Queen Catherine on my money, actually...

It's very pretentious calling her Queen Catherine though. She's Kate and she'll always be Kate. I'll be calling her Kate Middleton when I'm an old yin sitting in a rocking chair surrounded by jars of snuff.