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[Mr. Palau]

What do you expect from a people who's ancestors faced the brutality of the Upper Peninsula War?

I think that wikipedia article is a fake.

It took you all three (3) posts to figure that out, with a massive "humorus hoax" banner at the top of the article. Come on now, you think something like this would have been looked over in US History (non-Americans excluded from this latter criticism).

I dismissed them as the normal "this needs moar citiations!" banners. It actually looks like a real wikipedia article, I am impressed at this hoaxer's finnese.

[Karlito]

You guys need to learn to recognize a user page when you see one.

[MaximumZero]

I have something to say about sharia law being enacted in Michigan. If all else fails, I will punch the law into oblivion. They can deal with it in Sheogorath's realm.

[Osmosis Jones]

I've always wondered how people can get worked up about something like that; (I'm assuming the original comment was in jest, but I have seen similar, serious, claims that this sort of thing is happening in both American and my local Australian news sources).

Wouldn't that sort of change require at the very least a straight majority (>50%) of the population to think it's a good idea? Which, since not even all muslims would support it, would require a ridiculous majority? Considering muslims represent approximately 0.8% of the Michigan state population according to wikipedia, that seems a mite unlikely.

Of course, I may be making the rookie mistake that numbers actually mean anything in scaremongering.

[penguinofhonor]

I think he's referring to a law that would be a Christian equivalent, not literally Sharia law.

[Osmosis Jones]

As I said above; I'm aware the original comment wasn't literal. What I am referring to is people who are seriously worried about the idea that muslims (not any other religious group) might try to introduce sharia law in western countries.

[penguinofhonor]

Oh. Uh. Maybe I shouldn't ignore parentheses.

[Tilla]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/13/obama-trade-document-leak_n_1592593.html

Obama selling out American sovereignity to foreign megacorps. Romney urging him to get it done faster. This election is FUCKED.

[Zrk2]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/13/obama-trade-document-leak_n_1592593.html

Obama selling out American sovereignity to foreign megacorps. Romney urging him to get it done faster. This election is FUCKED.

Welcome to America.

[nenjin]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/13/obama-trade-document-leak_n_1592593.html

Obama selling out American sovereignity to foreign megacorps. Romney urging him to get it done faster. This election is FUCKED.

Welcome to Shadowrun, is more like it.

Although the key point here is that the tribunal can impose trade sanctions, not just carte blanche nullify U.S. law. But no country wants trade sanctions imposed on it, and that's the sort of backroom decision that it seems like would be made more often than not. I imagine the sales pitch is something about global financial stability and economic stimulation....but when the IMF is saying it's a bad idea, it doesn't really track. Obama's ready approval of this Corporate One-World-Government thing is getting downright creepy, and infuriating. Even if he believes this is all necessary to re-stimulate the global economy, it's incredibly short-sighted. (Or has a diabolically long view, if you take the conspiracy position.)

[Mr. Palau]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/13/obama-trade-document-leak_n_1592593.html

Obama selling out American sovereignity to foreign megacorps. Romney urging him to get it done faster. This election is FUCKED.

Welcome to Shadowrun, is more like it.

Although the key point here is that the tribunal can impose trade sanctions, not just carte blanche nullify U.S. law. But no country wants trade sanctions imposed on it, and that's the sort of backroom decision that it seems like would be made more often than not. I imagine the sales pitch is something about global financial stability and economic stimulation....but when the IMF is saying it's a bad idea, that idea doesn't really track. Obama's ready approval of this Corporate One-World-Government thing is getting downright creepy, and infuriating. Even if he believes this is all necessary to re-stimulate the global economy, it's incredibly short-sighted. (Or has a diabolically long view, if you take the conspiracy position.)

Some times I like to take the view point that it is just a giant conspiracy theory. At least then I could be save in the knowledge that my government wasn't stupid or incompetent, it was just working on a giant plan for world domination. Then I could rest safe in the knowledge that while everyone was mocking America for doing stupid things like allowing money to flood the political system or invading Iraq, it was all part of the shadow governments plan. The botched attempt to solve the global recession is just what the shadow governments needs to cement it's power, and the partisan ship is merely a distraction.

[Mego]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/13/obama-trade-document-leak_n_1592593.html

Obama selling out American sovereignity to foreign megacorps. Romney urging him to get it done faster. This election is FUCKED.

Welcome to Shadowrun, is more like it.

Although the key point here is that the tribunal can impose trade sanctions, not just carte blanche nullify U.S. law. But no country wants trade sanctions imposed on it, and that's the sort of backroom decision that it seems like would be made more often than not. I imagine the sales pitch is something about global financial stability and economic stimulation....but when the IMF is saying it's a bad idea, that idea doesn't really track. Obama's ready approval of this Corporate One-World-Government thing is getting downright creepy, and infuriating. Even if he believes this is all necessary to re-stimulate the global economy, it's incredibly short-sighted. (Or has a diabolically long view, if you take the conspiracy position.)

Some times I like to take the view point that it is just a giant conspiracy theory. At least then I could be save in the knowledge that my government wasn't stupid or incompetent, it was just working on a giant plan for world domination. Then I could rest safe in the knowledge that while everyone was mocking America for doing stupid things like allowing money to flood the political system or invading Iraq, it was all part of the shadow governments plan. The botched attempt to solve the global recession is just what the shadow governments needs to cement it's power, and the partisan ship is merely a distraction.

The sad thing is, this is the most reasonable thing I've heard in a while.

[kaijyuu]

The CIA is pretty damn evil, manipulative, secretive, and all that, but luckily they're usually incompetent too.

Frankly I don't think the US government could pull of a big conspiracy. Small ones maybe.

[SalmonGod]

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Keep in mind that the CIA is restricted from engaging in any operations on US soil for the very reason that intelligence agencies have a tendency to spawn coup d'etats if left unchecked. This has been the case ever since they were founded, so good forethought on our ancestors part.