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Author Topic: American Election Megathread - It's Over  (Read 763775 times)

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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #2985 on: March 30, 2012, 05:59:36 am »

So Santorum made a pretty big slip-up. If the link doesn't work properly, jump to 0:34:26.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #2986 on: March 30, 2012, 06:40:16 am »

Yeouch.

Not much else that cut off word could be, either.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #2987 on: March 30, 2012, 07:46:33 am »

Wow. Yup, that's gonna set him back a ways. (Though I'm sure some people will ignore it just to avoid Romney.) There also seems to be a bit of an Anyone-But-Romney attitude already.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #2988 on: March 30, 2012, 07:51:49 am »

It could be 'nincompoop'

But yeah, no.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #2989 on: March 30, 2012, 07:53:09 am »

I haven't watched the video, but judging from Blarg's post I think he meant to say "ninja".
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #2990 on: March 30, 2012, 08:01:03 am »

That is the ultimate Freudian slip. It's going to take some serious effort to break this record.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #2991 on: March 30, 2012, 08:03:54 am »

Newt Gingrich is to the primaries as Charlie Sheen is to the Hollywood establishment. I figured at some point, his backers were going to realize they weren't getting any sort of return on their investment as Gingrich's stock fell pretty much everywhere. I'm surprised it took this long, but I suspect he's had more planned with his backers than just trying to *ahem* win the the primaries. I'm thinking whatever those prospects were got significantly dimmer.

So now he's going to do what Sheen did, and go completely maverick, get even louder and more absurd......before retreating and latching on to any life line that people will throw him. Personally, I can't wait to see him on DWTS with that corpse he married his wife.

If Gingrich goes on some coke-fueled rant about having tiger blood and Adonis DNA....I'm voting for him, just because.


And I can't watch the vid with sound here at work, but I gather Santorum averted dropping the N-word in a rather sloppy fashion. Hard to say if that was a gaffe or desperate dog-whistling to get the racist vote. Dunno about Wisconsin, but you'd be surprised how many rednecks Maryland has.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #2992 on: March 30, 2012, 08:05:23 am »

It could be something else... But govornment N***** is a common way people down here in south eastern dixistan refer to Obama in casual conversation.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #2993 on: March 30, 2012, 08:18:12 am »

And I can't watch the vid with sound here at work, but I gather Santorum averted dropping the N-word in a rather sloppy fashion. Hard to say if that was a gaffe or desperate dog-whistling to get the racist vote. Dunno about Wisconsin, but you'd be surprised how many rednecks Maryland has.
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It could be something else... But govornment N***** is a common way people down here in south eastern dixistan refer to Obama in casual conversation.
Oh knock it off. Southerners are no more racist than the rest of the nation.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #2994 on: March 30, 2012, 08:25:31 am »

Maybe. But I don't have to listen to northern or western racists nearly every time I go out in public.
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« Reply #2995 on: March 30, 2012, 08:26:48 am »

It sounds like that may be more of a problem in your local community than anything else.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #2996 on: March 30, 2012, 08:29:49 am »

I've moved around a lot on the gulf coast, ms, fl, la, al. It doesn't really change that much.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #2997 on: March 30, 2012, 08:29:58 am »

IIRC, Nadaka lives in a concentrated patch of unreconstructed Panhandlestan. So his view might be a bit bleaker than ours. I get all huffy sometimes about how "we're not like that anymore!" and then I go half an hour outside of Raleigh and I'm like, "Oh....I forgot about these folks."  :-\
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« Reply #2998 on: March 30, 2012, 08:32:58 am »

Now, MetalSlime, if southerners aren't more racist, they are at least a damn sight more casual about being so, in my experience. Its got a lot more places you can be pretty much openly racist without any sort of fallout than, say, New England.

And that sort of public acceptance of racist attitudes is likely to indicate that they might, overall, be a bit more racist.

(Not to say any individual is more racist, or that racists don't exist anywhere else, or that everywhere in the south is equally racist.)

Here in New England, the ONLY time I've heard that sort of casual racism in conversation is speaking with people over 70 or people from the south.

And /visiting/ the south...

Mind you my experience IS limited to Virginia and Texas, which aren't exactly the deep south, and Florida, which is basically where New England sends all its crazy racists. :P

To second the above, though, southern cities are generally fine, it just deteriorates pretty rapidly once you move outside them. And anecdotes don't prove much of anything of course.
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« Reply #2999 on: March 30, 2012, 09:21:41 am »

I think if anything, it's just that we're more....comfortable (for lack of a better word) with racism here. It's worth noting that the South also has the largest (by percentage) African-American populations. Which, IMHO, creates two different kinds of racism.

In the South, it's a "familiarity breeds contempt" sort of thing. Racism tends to be generated out of all the little petty squabbles and inter-community competition for resources, and race is an easy target. Point of example: my late grandfather, while a saint of a man, was also a product of his upbringing. If a white guy cut him off in traffic, that was a "dum-dum". If a black guy cut him off, that was a "dirty n****r". He wasn't particularly any more incensed than he was with the white guy, it was just easier (and ingrained) to denigrate their skin color than their actions. But at the same time, I feel like it's a mile wide and only a few inches deep. Put five black college kids in Carolina blue basketball uniforms and put them on the court, and those rednecks will be cheering them on like they were their own children. There's almost no job here (other than maybe corporate executive) where you're not going to have at least one black co-worker. And chances are, they're going to be a pretty decent person. Which is why you get a lot of cognitive dissonance like "Some of my best friends are black" and "There's black people and then there's n*****s".

Meanwhile, you have places like Idaho, New Hampshire, Montana and Arizona that are hotbeds of violent, strident white supremacy and have almost no African-American population. In the absence of living, breathing black people to remind you on a daily basis that they're just like everyone else, it allows those supremacists to demonize and dehumanize and caricature minorities to the point that they can self-justify radical violence. The racism there (where it exists) is narrow but deep.

And it's often multi-faceted. My mother was born in Montana, and her mother's family was racist on a different tack: black people were more a curiosity than anything in Montana. But Mexicans and Native Americans were strictly verboten as potential mates (because after all, they were the hired help). Which of course, meant that two of my grandmother's sisters promptly married a pair of Mexican brothers who were farm laborers. Funny how that works. And then my family themselves were Volga Germans, which meant they weren't fully trusted by the US during WWII.
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