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Author Topic: American Election Megathread - It's Over  (Read 751827 times)

GlyphGryph

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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #2190 on: February 20, 2012, 09:42:51 pm »

Your link is broken, Palsch.

I should clarify - more women are still raped than men, but male rape tends to be repeated multiple times when it happens and is far less likely to be reported. In prison situations, it is often actually encouraged. And I should have specified this is only valid within the US.

And honestly, there's not a lot of accuracy in any of the studies. Report rates are very low. There's a lot of guesswork involved.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #2191 on: February 20, 2012, 09:43:28 pm »

Actually this is false.

Still that is a disturbingly large number of prison rape.  Christ.
Pro-tip: Don't go to prison. Follow that rule and you'll be a much happier person.
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« Reply #2192 on: February 20, 2012, 09:44:57 pm »

Unfortunately, you can often end up in jail without having actually broken any laws simply by being in the wrong place at the wrong time. While a holding cell isn't as bad as a real prison, rape incidences involving them are still scary high.
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« Reply #2193 on: February 20, 2012, 09:46:33 pm »

New pro-tip: Never leave your room. Try putting me in the wrong place at the wrong time now, universe!
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #2194 on: February 20, 2012, 09:47:18 pm »

New pro-tip: Never leave your room. Try putting me in the wrong place at the wrong time now, universe!
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Watch out for asteroids!
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #2195 on: February 20, 2012, 09:48:23 pm »

New pro-tip: Never leave your room. Try putting me in the wrong place at the wrong time now, universe!
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Watch out for asteroids!
You can't go to jail for asteroid impacts, though. You'd probably be dead instead! Take that, universe!
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #2196 on: February 20, 2012, 09:54:23 pm »

Erm, so these companies are advertising services they no longer offer?

The law goes into effect in 2014, so technically yes they can still offer these services until the law comes into effect.
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« Reply #2197 on: February 20, 2012, 09:57:46 pm »

You do realize that the US government already paid for these loans, right?  All these companies did was take a slice off the top while assuming none of the risk and providing none of the money.  If correcting this situation is socialism then I think you will have a hard time finding anyone who doesn't want this kind of socialism.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #2198 on: February 20, 2012, 10:01:52 pm »

By the way, Ninja, I just got back and had a look through the thread.  This post caught my attention.  Please examine it.  Then, please examine your future posts to make sure you understand how quote tags work.  It's making my thread a little messy.

Jesus Christ, do we need some content to talk about.  C'mon primaries, happen already.
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« Reply #2199 on: February 20, 2012, 10:02:58 pm »

You do realize that the US government already paid for these loans, right?  All these companies did was take a slice off the top while assuming none of the risk and providing none of the money.  If correcting this situation is socialism then I think you will have a hard time finding anyone who doesn't want this kind of socialism.

Indeed, unfortunately not every single company out there gives out government backed studentloans.  If that was the case, then yes I could see what you are saying. 
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« Reply #2200 on: February 20, 2012, 10:03:46 pm »

You do realize that the US government already paid for these loans, right?  All these companies did was take a slice off the top while assuming none of the risk and providing none of the money.  If correcting this situation is socialism then I think you will have a hard time finding anyone who doesn't want this kind of socialism.

Indeed, unfortunately not every single company out there gives out government backed studentloans.  If that was the case, then yes I could see what you are saying.

The law only affected the ones that did.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #2201 on: February 20, 2012, 10:07:02 pm »

By the way, Ninja, I just got back and had a look through the thread.  This post caught my attention.  Please examine it.  Then, please examine your future posts to make sure you understand how quote tags work.  It's making my thread a little messy.

Jesus Christ, do we need some content to talk about.  C'mon primaries, happen already.

Lol, now that you've pointed it out it does look weird!  I seemed to have deleted the wrong author quote box! :(
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« Reply #2202 on: February 20, 2012, 10:10:08 pm »

Because there is too much serious debate going on here, have something lighter.

Some conservative literary criticism of Dreams From My Father that proves Bill Ayers wrote it. Or something.
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But Cashill’s deconstruction is far from complete. He amasses a boatload of irrefutable evidence:

    Both Obama and Ayers “use ’storms’ and ‘horizons’ as metaphor and as reality.”
    “Ayers and Obama also speak often of waves and wind, Obama at least a dozen times on wind alone.”
    The polyamorous Ayers has “tangled love affairs” while the undergraduate Obama has “tangled arguments.”
    “On at least 12 occasions, Obama speaks of ‘despair,’” an emotion Ayers has been known to feel.
    “Obama . . . has a fondness for the word ‘murky’ and its aquatic usages.”
    Both . . . make conspicuous use of the word ‘flutter.’”
    The “Fugitive Days” excerpt scores a 54 on reading ease and a 12th grade reading level. The “Dreams’” excerpt scores a 54.8 on reading ease and a 12th grade reading level.

If Cashill’s math fails to convince you—54 is quite close to 54.8, but numbers might not be to your taste—consider that in his analysis, he “introduce[s his] own book, Sucker Punch . . . [a]s a control.”  How much more scientific does his deconstruction need to be?
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The law goes into effect in 2014, so technically yes they can still offer these services until the law comes into effect.
OK, so I did the stupid thing and actually searched the bill. I could find all the provisions except the one forbidding private companies from offering loans. Help?
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« Reply #2203 on: February 20, 2012, 10:22:06 pm »

I could find all the provisions except the one forbidding private companies from offering loans. Help?

You got me there! (I'll concede I am wrong)

Still though, you think private industry will still be able to offer loans to students at realistic rates?  I doubt it. 
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #2204 on: February 20, 2012, 10:26:28 pm »

I could find all the provisions except the one forbidding private companies from offering loans. Help?

You got me there! (I'll concede I am wrong)

Still though, you think private industry will still be able to offer loans to students at realistic rates?  I doubt it. 

If the private industry doesn't want to do it, then why should we pay them to when the government can do so at less cost of taxpayer money AND less risk to taxpayers?
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