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[darkrider2]

To quote Admiral Adama, "The military fights the enemy, police protect the people, when the military becomes the police, the people become the enemy."

Massively paraphrased because my googlefu isn't good enough to find the actual quote/clip.

[mainiac]

Mainiac, this year's NDAA contains a provision that allows for the indefinite detainment of US citizens by the military. Did you completely miss this?

Frankly it doesn't strike me as nearly a big a deal as the state of our homefront.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Mainiac, this year's NDAA contains a provision that allows for the indefinite detainment of US citizens by the military. Did you completely miss this?

Frankly it doesn't strike me as nearly a big a deal as the state of our homefront.

Then you and I do not see the world in the same way.

[OwlEpicurus]

Mainiac, this year's NDAA contains a provision that allows for the indefinite detainment of US citizens by the military. Did you completely miss this?

You're referring to Section D, right?  Actually, it specifically excludes American citizens from its provisions:

Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States, or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States.

Source: the bill as passed by Congress

That's not to say there aren't other good reasons to dislike the bill (such as the sanctions against Iran, or even the possiblity of using Section D against non-citizens captured outside the US), but unless I'm reading that section wrong then indefinite detainment of US citizens by the military is not one of them.  At least, that is no more of a problem now than it was before it was passed.

[SalmonGod]

Good fortune come difficult and go easy.  Both ways often enough. 

Respect for civil rights defines generations, cannot be gained without fighting tooth and nail through great sacrifice, and disappear as soon as you're distracted.

[mainiac]

Mainiac, this year's NDAA contains a provision that allows for the indefinite detainment of US citizens by the military. Did you completely miss this?

Frankly it doesn't strike me as nearly a big a deal as the state of our homefront.

Then you and I do not see the world in the same way.

Well I tend to see the world as being full of apocalyptic language used by lay people describing obscure wording that often doesn't mean what they think it does.

Meanwhile huge important issues are going on everyday and they will ignore them.

[Zrk2]

A large portion of Americans still believe they live in the freest country in the world, too.

When Obma doesn't do shit it isn't his fault. Blame the Republicans!

I think we can all agree that Obama isn't doing much and the Republicans are fucking retarded. Next question.

[SalmonGod]

Mainiac, this year's NDAA contains a provision that allows for the indefinite detainment of US citizens by the military. Did you completely miss this?

Frankly it doesn't strike me as nearly a big a deal as the state of our homefront.

Then you and I do not see the world in the same way.

Well I tend to see the world as being full of apocalyptic language used by lay people describing obscure wording that often doesn't mean what they think it does.

Meanwhile huge important issues are going on everyday and they will ignore them.

I like how you subtly imply that you are less a layperson than anyone else here.

[jester]

And ignore all the fun stuff lawyers have been able to to do with obscure wording

[darkrider2]

All this crap makes me want to run for office, but I'd never get elected, too honest, oh and I'm an athiest, that too.

[jester]

All this crap makes me want to run for office, but I'd never get elected, too honest, oh and I'm an athiest, that too.

You could just lie.  It is allowed in politics

[Willfor]

All this crap makes me want to run for office, but I'd never get elected, too honest, oh and I'm an athiest, that too.

You could just lie.  It is allowed in politics

It does, however, completely defeat the purpose of his running.

[mainiac]

I like how you subtly imply that you are less a layperson than anyone else here.

Maybe I just imply that I use less apocalyptic language.

[Mego]

All this crap makes me want to run for office, but I'd never get elected, too honest, oh and I'm an athiest, that too.

You could just lie.  It is allowed in politics

It does, however, completely defeat the purpose of his running.

I would actually be tempted to vote for someone who came out and unambiguously said that they were going to destroy the American political system. They'd either be an honest politician or they would actually put forth effort to fix the many problems with our current system. Either choice would be a pleasant change from what we've been getting for the last century.

[darkrider2]

All this crap makes me want to run for office, but I'd never get elected, too honest, oh and I'm an athiest, that too.

You could just lie.  It is allowed in politics

It does, however, completely defeat the purpose of his running.

I would actually be tempted to vote for someone who came out and unambiguously said that they were going to destroy the American political system. They'd either be an honest politician or they would actually put forth effort to fix the many problems with our current system. Either choice would be a pleasant change from what we've been getting for the last century.

Thanks bro. I'd vote for that too.