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[Descan]

So... Basically he's a commienazi? For reals?

I can't really say anything about the rest of it, except that I really wouldn't be surprised if it's true. :/

[Scaraban]

By making it a holiday you are in no way encouraging these people to vote; just giving them a day off, and of the already dismal number of voters, even fewer are properly informed. So, even those that decide to make voting part of their new free day, are in essence a wild card of malformed, manipulated, and/or misinformed opinions on candidates, issues, and the office of Presidency. Until people decide to learn what they are doing, I honestly don't want them voting regardless of which way they lean. I am tired of hearing the same argument about an issue they do not understand and refuse to learn about be the basis of their political life.

[Heron TSG]

So... Basically he's a commienazi? For reals?

I can't really say anything about the rest of it, except that I really wouldn't be surprised if it's true. :/

Well, Nazi is just a shortening of the German phrase for 'National Socialist', so...

[GlyphGryph]

By making it a holiday you are in no way encouraging these people to vote; just giving them a day off, and of the already dismal number of voters, even fewer are properly informed. So, even those that decide to make voting part of their new free day, are in essence a wild card of malformed, manipulated, and/or misinformed opinions on candidates, issues, and the office of Presidency. Until people decide to learn what they are doing, I honestly don't want them voting regardless of which way they lean. I am tired of hearing the same argument about an issue they do not understand and refuse to learn about be the basis of their political life.

Yes, because god knows we would want the hard workers dedicated to their jobs to vote! Oh no, that's reserved for the upper class who get paid holidays of their own, and people who don't work at all.

I'm well educated, politically, but I'm not even sure if I'm going to be able to vote, because I work an hour away from my assigned polling both, and if it is only open from 7 to 7 here, like it is in some places, well... well, in that case, I guess I'm going to have to tell them I'm coming into work late or leaving early. But I'm lucky - I can AFFORD to do that.

[Frumple]

... most voting areas have options for distance or early voting, I think. It's definitely a thing where I'm at, anyway. Very useful if you're in another area (or even state) for work and can't make it back.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Some places have election day as a holiday. It doesn't actually seem to make a difference in voter turnout. Now, a tax penalty for failing to at least show up and mark "abstaining", on the other hand... (Although you could very well just have the voting officials mark your name off the list of people who haven't voted and then leave without actually voting if you really wanted to be as lazy as possible.)

[GlyphGryph]

Practically anything involving paperwork is a nightmare to me. I'll look into the voting early thing - we'll see how it goes...

[Canalan]

On a more serious note, people that willfully injure/kill/torture any animal for any purpose (other than hunting, I guess) should be crucified while on fire.

Always remember, folks: If asked, a decent number of people (if not most) will say that they would save the lives of their favored pets over that of humans that they don't know.

I didn't say that.  I said I don't condone the torture of animals.

And we need more people voting, it gets them accustomed to it.  Harder to take it away.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

On a more serious note, people that willfully injure/kill/torture any animal for any purpose (other than hunting, I guess) should be crucified while on fire.

Always remember, folks: If asked, a decent number of people (if not most) will say that they would save the lives of their favored pets over that of humans that they don't know.

I didn't say that.  I said I don't condone the torture of animals.

I know, but I was just making a point on the ability of humans to emphasize with animals and inanimate objects more than with other humans.

[Scaraban]

By making it a holiday you are in no way encouraging these people to vote; just giving them a day off, and of the already dismal number of voters, even fewer are properly informed. So, even those that decide to make voting part of their new free day, are in essence a wild card of malformed, manipulated, and/or misinformed opinions on candidates, issues, and the office of Presidency. Until people decide to learn what they are doing, I honestly don't want them voting regardless of which way they lean. I am tired of hearing the same argument about an issue they do not understand and refuse to learn about be the basis of their political life.

Yes, because god knows we would want the hard workers dedicated to their jobs to vote! Oh no, that's reserved for the upper class who get paid holidays of their own, and people who don't work at all.

I'm well educated, politically, but I'm not even sure if I'm going to be able to vote, because I work an hour away from my assigned polling both, and if it is only open from 7 to 7 here, like it is in some places, well... well, in that case, I guess I'm going to have to tell them I'm coming into work late or leaving early. But I'm lucky - I can AFFORD to do that.

Thank you for that, that is clearly how my post was meant, meaning your hostility wasn't in any way pointless. The voting booth is open for 12 hours and the date is known well in advance, if you can't make it file for early/distance voting. The point is that if people who will be working that day wanted to vote they can vote and immediately turning on me like I'm proposing that these people shouldn't allowed to vote is ridiculous.

[Tilla]

One of Doctor Paul's embittered ex-supporters had this to say after Paul tried to distance himself from the White Supremacy movement:

I have kept quiet about the Ron Paul campaign for a while, because I didn’t see any need to say anything that would cause any trouble. However, reading the latest release from his campaign spokesman, I am compelled to tell the truth about Ron Paul’s extensive involvement in white nationalism.
Both Congressman Paul and his aides regularly meet with members of the Stormfront set, American Renaissance, the Institute for Historic Review, and others at the Tara Thai restaurant in Arlington, Virginia, usually on Wednesdays. This is part of a dinner that was originally organized by Pat Buchanan, Sam Francis and Joe Sobran, and has since been mostly taken over by the Council of Conservative Citizens.
I have attended these dinners, seen Paul and his aides there, and been invited to his offices in Washington to discuss policy.
For his spokesman to call white racialism a “small ideology” and claim white activists are “wasting their money” trying to influence Paul is ridiculous. Paul is a white nationalist of the Stormfront type who has always kept his racial views and his views about world Judaism quiet because of his political position.
I don’t know that it is necessarily good for Paul to “expose” this. However, he really is someone with extensive ties to white nationalism and for him to deny that in the belief he will be more respectable by denying it is outrageous – and I hate seeing people in the press who denounce racialism merely because they think it is not fashionable
Bill White, Commander
American National Socialist Workers Party

He's a socialist, he can't be trusted 'CUZ HE HATES ERR FREEDOM!

National Socialist. Nat-sy. This guy wears his racism on his sleeve as a founder of an American Nazi movement. And he claims to have met with Ron Paul regularly.

[GlyphGryph]

We've already got a number of national holidays - I see no good reason why we couldn't hold one of them on election day and make things easier for all involved.

You were the one who stated you didn't want people to get the day off because you didn't want them voting anyways.

[Sirus]

So... Basically he's a commienazi? For reals?

I can't really say anything about the rest of it, except that I really wouldn't be surprised if it's true. :/

Well, Nazi is just a shortening of the German phrase for 'National Socialist', so...

Yeah, but Nazi Germany was fascist, not socialist. Hitler hated socialism and communism. Calling their party National Socialist was purely a ploy to get the working class on their side.

[jester]

In Australia its compulsory to vote.  Frankly I think a system like this might cut down on the lunatic fringe that seems to rise to the top in US politics.

  And are people really complaining about a day off?  I mean its a day off!?  Unless you own a factory or something why hate something as perfect as a day off.  Go vote in the morning then be drunk off your ass and dancing like you need the money by 12

[mainiac]

National Socialist. Nat-sy. This guy wears his racism on his sleeve as a founder of an American Nazi movement. And he claims to have met with Ron Paul regularly.

You better take your snark meter in for a tune-up.

... most voting areas have options for distance or early voting, I think. It's definitely a thing where I'm at, anyway. Very useful if you're in another area (or even state) for work and can't make it back.

Distance voting is probably the best thing that's happening in American democracy in recent years.  Or to put it a different way; it is the only bright spot in a giant pile of shit.  Not many people do it but I think it could develop into something good.