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[Mictlantecuhtli]

You're all about as divisive as our esteemed politicians. I still think you're mostly missing out on the real issue of supreme corporate/private influence in these elections, as opposed to certain issues in candidates (and ideologies)...

Not that I'm saying a Teddy Roosevelt wouldn't be appreciated, but weak leadership worries me less then power-hungry middlemen.

[Sirus]

Okay, I'm going to stick to the actual topic for the rest of the thread before I get into a full blown internet argument.

...Which means I probably won't post much more until either after the primaries, or the roster changes.

So, I won't respond to the esteemed Capn's response. Even though I really want to.

Thank you for being mature.

[Capntastic]

I'm going to come out and say that I feel that Obama is perhaps the candidate with the least psychological issues.  He is also, seemingly, aware that he is a person who can, has, and will make mistakes. 

[Heron TSG]

We need a Teddy Roosevelt again. Someone to stand up to the huge corporations and banks who will try to give everyone a square deal. Someone who could start a Bull Moose party and (at least nearly) win.

[Capntastic]

A charismatic, hardworking, intelligent human being with empathy for the underclass?  Like many of the exotic animals he shotgunned to death and stuffed with wads of newspaper, they simply don't exist anymore!

[Aqizzar]

Okay, I think I fucked something up.  Nothing to see here, move along.

Anyway, everybody be cool.  I will lock this thread until there's news to discuss if people can't stay civil.

[Little]

We need a Teddy Roosevelt again. Someone to stand up to the huge corporations and banks who will try to give everyone a square deal. Someone who could start a Bull Moose party and (at least nearly) win.

After the Sherman Anti-Trust Act was passed, the first prosecution the Roosevelt administration brought with it was against the American Railway Union to stop worker strikes.  Just so you know your history.

No matter who wins Iowa, both candidates are corporate pawns representing the two wings of the American Capitalist Party. The two-party system is really, really, stupid.

[Heron TSG]

I do recall that there were some downsides, yes. I didn't mean to say we need the same Teddy Roosevelt, I meant we needed someone who acted like he did politically without all of the imperialism of the era. The breakup of the Pullman Workers' Strike and others shouldn't have happened, but the other effects of the law actually did get something positive done. (Namely the breakup of Northern Securities, the American Tobacco Company, and Standard Oil, amongst others.)

In contrast, the Dodd-Frank act, toted as a 'Bank-Regulation' law, does absolutely nothing except increase the volume of paperwork that must be done.

[Sirus]

We need a Teddy Roosevelt again. Someone to stand up to the huge corporations and banks who will try to give everyone a square deal. Someone who could start a Bull Moose party and (at least nearly) win.

After the Sherman Anti-Trust Act was passed, the first prosecution the Roosevelt administration brought with it was against the American Railway Union to stop worker strikes.  Just so you know your history.

No matter who wins Iowa, both candidates are corporate pawns representing the two wings of the American Capitalist Party. The two-party system is really, really, stupid.

So vote for a third party. No-one's stopping you.

[G-Flex]

So vote for a third party. No-one's stopping you.

Pretty much the entire American political machine works to prevent third parties from being feasible options, whether a few people here and there vote for them or not.

[Little]

We need a Teddy Roosevelt again. Someone to stand up to the huge corporations and banks who will try to give everyone a square deal. Someone who could start a Bull Moose party and (at least nearly) win.

After the Sherman Anti-Trust Act was passed, the first prosecution the Roosevelt administration brought with it was against the American Railway Union to stop worker strikes.  Just so you know your history.

No matter who wins Iowa, both candidates are corporate pawns representing the two wings of the American Capitalist Party. The two-party system is really, really, stupid.

So vote for a third party. No-one's stopping you.

I'm actually Canadian! 

On a more serious note, I think Bachmann will drop out after she fails in Iowa and go for her Congress seat, same with Perry.

[Sirus]

So vote for a third party. No-one's stopping you.

Pretty much the entire American political machine works to prevent third parties from being feasible options, whether a few people here and there vote for them or not.

There are two independent politicians in the Senate right now. They may be at a disadvantage, but they can still get voted in.

[Tilla]

7 minutes on why you should never consider Ron Paul a human being, much less a candidate for presidency: (skip the first 20 seconds of some silly intro)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXms-dobP6w

[Sirus]

7 minutes on why you should never consider Ron Paul a human being, much less a candidate for presidency: (skip the first 20 seconds of some silly intro)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXms-dobP6w

Oh good lord, Paul.
*facepalm*

[Blade Master Model 42]

7 minutes on why you should never consider Ron Paul a human being, much less a candidate for presidency: (skip the first 20 seconds of some silly intro)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXms-dobP6w

Oh good lord, Paul.
*facepalm*

Welp. Damn.