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[kaijyuu]

So, running for president is like herding cats.

[Osmosis Jones]

Best way to vote in America is to buy a one-way ticket to Japan.

Urgh, don't do that. It's election season here, too. Every damn day there are vans with speakers on top blaring out why you should vote for a given candidate; they are really bloody loud, and you can hear them for ages, because they drive down each and every one of the thousands of crisscrossing streets in a 1 mile radius. >_>

[mainiac]

I'm in California and I've already cast my vote for Jill Stein. Have a little courage. Realize that frankly Romney isn't going to achieve anything anyway, since the congress will still be mired in bickering.

I'm sorry but were you awake during the bush years?

Presidents have a lot more power in reality then they do on paper.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Like....what? Regardless of Bush's actual actions, he didn't overstep his given powers in doing them.

[GlyphGryph]

Were you awake during the Bush years? Most of his worse policies were the fault of congress. He may have wanted them, but it's hard to say they were really his fault.

[darkrider2]

Control of congress is probably more important.

But you really need the president and congress to work together for things to be good. And that's been a problem the last four years since the republican controlled house (is the senate also?) pretty much just voted anything the president agrees with down as soon as it gets in the door.

Then they turn around and say the president hasn't delivered. Well no shit.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

And then they criticize him for trying to be a "liberal Reagan" who would have bipartisan successes, because that doesn't work, because Obama doesn't deliver, because the Republican House is stubborn and won't let anything pass.

[GlyphGryph]

They won't even let him pass things they themselves have proposed, simply because they don't want it to look like he's accomplished something.

It's not a great situation.

[Glowcat]

I'm in California and I've already cast my vote for Jill Stein. Have a little courage. Realize that frankly Romney isn't going to achieve anything anyway, since the congress will still be mired in bickering.

Besides, you know, appointing more conservative judges to the supreme court.

[Karnewarrior]

Best way to vote in America is to buy a one-way ticket to Japan.

Urgh, don't do that. It's election season here, too. Every damn day there are vans with speakers on top blaring out why you should vote for a given candidate; they are really bloody loud, and you can hear them for ages, because they drive down each and every one of the thousands of crisscrossing streets in a 1 mile radius. >_>

Huh. I'm going to try to get stationed in Japan if at all possible when I finally get through Basic training here in the States. How often are elections over there?

[MetalSlimeHunt]

The most interesting things I know about Japanese politics is that the Liberal Democrats are the Conservatives, the Democrats are the Liberals, and the local far-right nationalists/proto-fascists have the coolest name: The Sunrise Party. There are also some Communists in there somewhere.

[Zangi]

They won't even let him pass things they themselves have proposed, simply because they don't want it to look like he's accomplished something.

It's not a great situation.

Sometimes... I wish this place was China.  The administration would have eventually said no to the bullshit and started summary executions for being roadblocks to progressa destabilizing force.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

The administration wouldn't have been progressive in the first place. The problem with enlightened liberal dictatorships is that the people ruling them by definition want to dismantle them.

It takes a special kind of lunatic to seize absolute power and use it for the genuine good of the people.

[mainiac]

Control of congress is probably more important.

Clinton faced a republican congress and managed to stem the tide of inequality and advance a whole host of liberal social issues.  Reagan had a democratic congress but still started the first round of deficit increasing tax cuts for the rich.

Complete control of congress is vastly more powerful then the presidency but even a strong majority is no where as useful as complete control.  But the White House is always answering to one guy while congressmen bicker with their own parties endlessly.  To really "control" congress you'd need something like the 80% majorities that the New Dealers had.

[GlyphGryph]

Except the Republican's haven't been bickering lately. They've been marching in lockstep. It's actually pretty impressive. Driving out many of the moderates has certainly helped them.