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[Capntastic]

Oh of course it is unconstitutional, immoral, whatever.  It's just that some people truly have that mindset.  Hence Joe Arpaio not beIng tried for his crimes.

[Sirus]

Oh of course it is unconstitutional, immoral, whatever.  It's just that some people truly have that mindset.  Hence Joe Arpaio not beIng tried for his crimes.

The same people also tend to call themselves "pro-life". But that's for another thread.

[Capntastic]

Regardless, if someone truly believes that prison is about punishing and torturing more than it is about rehabilitating criminals, to the point that dehumanizing and allowing inmates to die in actual prison camps, they are not someone you should revere or put in a position of authority.

[Sirus]

Oh, I agree. Didn't mean to imply otherwise.

[Capntastic]

No worries.  I am posting from my phone so things are kinda stilted on my end.

[Monkeyfacedprickleback]

I always thought the justice and prison system should be more about prevention rather then punishment. I reckon crime would drop if you had televised executions for the worst criminals, Like child molesters and rapists. Make it into a game show. or something like gladiators or takeshi's castle.
"I'm sorry the correct answer is ohio. HANG HIM."

I'm joking of course, but still, If you want to threaten people into being nice you gatta use BIG threats.

[Frumple]

I always thought the justice and prison system should be more about prevention rather then punishment. I reckon crime would drop if you had televised executions for the worst criminals, Like child molesters and rapists. Make it into a game show. or something like gladiators or takeshi's castle.
"I'm sorry the correct answer is ohio. HANG HIM."

I'm joking of course, but still, If you want to threaten people into being nice you gatta use BIG threats.

Yeah, that doesn't actually work. They've checked with, yanno', years and years of research. Be nice (in a sense) if it did, because then we'd have a fairly straightforward way of going about it.

Back to the candidacy stuff. Anything particularly mindbogglingly ridiculous happen in the last day or so?

[Luke_Prowler]

Back to the candidacy stuff. Anything particularly mindbogglingly ridiculous happen in the last day or so?

Ron Paul hasn't been smote by lightning yet, that's mindboggling by itself

[Bauglir]

Only proves that if there is a God, He is smart enough to keep out of politics.

[Heron TSG]

Not that I've seen on the news, but who knows. When does the caucus actually occur?

[Bauglir]

Later today.

[Sheb]

Posting to watch.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

I'm joking of course, but still, If you want to threaten people into being nice you gatta use BIG threats.

The "Vlad the Impaler" view of the justice system has been shown by research and experience to only work in extreme circumstances. For example, you could probably get results from such a strategy in Somalia, but not in the United States.

[lemon10]

I always thought the justice and prison system should be more about prevention rather then punishment. I reckon crime would drop if you had televised executions for the worst criminals, Like child molesters and rapists. Make it into a game show. or something like gladiators or takeshi's castle.
"I'm sorry the correct answer is ohio. HANG HIM."

I'm joking of course, but still, If you want to threaten people into being nice you gatta use BIG threats.

Yeah, that doesn't actually work. They've checked with, yanno', years and years of research. Be nice (in a sense) if it did, because then we'd have a fairly straightforward way of going about it.

Back to the candidacy stuff. Anything particularly mindbogglingly ridiculous happen in the last day or so?

Nah, it has been proven to work.
It doesn't work very well, but it still works to some degree, although there are far better and more effective means to reduce criminal activity.

[Frumple]

Nah, it has been proven to work.
It doesn't work very well, but it still works to some degree, although there are far better and more effective means to reduce criminal activity.

Ah, sorry, I guess I should have been more clear. From what I remember (fairly well, it's only been a few months) that kind of action doesn't actually have much impact on the sort of crimes Monkey was talking about; child molestation, rape, murder, etc. Generally threat of punishment, even great punishment, doesn't even register to the folks committing that sort of act (especially when they're crimes of passion, not premeditation.). There certainly isn't (or wasn't, again, a few months ago) enough statistical correlation to even remotely support it as a viable and effective means to deal with the crimes themselves.

It might work in a few isolated cases (This is what we call an outlier, folks~), but that's (terrifyingly) insufficient for moral justification (And we've got problems if we're basing our justice system off something else.). By that same sort of reasoning, it'd be a good idea to murder literally everyone, because it'd prevent a few crimes. After all, mass murder prevents crimes, right? Bound to kill a few (eventually) guilty folks in there, sooner or later.

... but I'll stop now, I think. I've seen this argument gone over a couple times on this board already