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[Helgoland]

They're called the Social Democrats, and they are socialists. Because social democracy is a form of socialism.

And if you're trying to claim that "one party is called 'the Social Democrats' another 'the Socialists' so that proves they're not socialists", or anything like that, you might want to acknowledge that Sweden doesn't have a party of the latter kind, so such an assertion would automatically fail.

No, that was just curiosity - in some parts of Europe, they're called Social Democrats (Germany, Sweden), in some Socialists (Spain, if I remember correctly). They have largely the same function in their respective countries, though.

I think what you were going for is "Fick dich".

Or "Ficken Sie sich" when talking to someone you need to pay respect to; it'll lead to some interesting dissonance

Admittedly, that probably had less to do with economic ideology than a big "Geficken Sie" to the German Admiralty who were ready to sacrifice the entire German Navy in one last glorious battle.

Pretty much, yes, but the Navy was known to be quite a bit more red than the rest of the army. Communist/socialist thoughts were widespread in the infantry too, later on leading to the "Dolchstoßlegende" ("WE didn't lose, those damn commies backstabbed us!")

[FearfulJesuit]

Mittens finds his post-election gig.

[FearfulJesuit]

Rick Santorum continues to fight the good fight.

I'd love to think this is a hoax, but alas, it seems to be legitimate. To be honest, if anyone was still lacking proof that the Republican Party has gone off the deep end, this is it- and perhaps this is the sign that they're irredeemable. A man who almost became the party's presidential candidate but for a primary rescheduling is now writing for World Nut Daily. That tells you something.

Meanwhile, Conservapedia asks: "Will a major boom in shale oil and natural gas give Barack Obama the power he needs for a third term? And a fourth? That might be more reasonable than you think."

(no, it mightn't be)

[Helgoland]

OBAMA 4 PRESIDENT 4 LIFE!

Man, I wish we had FDR back.

[Grek]

America is a communist country straight up. Let's look at the actual listed demands in the Communist Manifesto:

1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all right of inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equable distribution of population over the country.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc., etc.

1. Done. It's important to note that "property in land" here refers (in old-timey communist speak) the rights of the nobility to own demenses of land, tax their serfs whatever they want and ordain local laws. Given that America does not and has never had nobles, this isn't even a thing.

2. Done. The USA totally has progressive income tax, and basically nobody advocates a flat tax anymore, just whether our progressive income tax should be a little progressive or alot progressive.

3. Not quite done. You can still inherit money from your deceased relatives and such. But there are inheritance taxes and Congress can, if they so desire, set these taxes to be any amount they want, up to and including 100%.

4. Non-issue. This one specifically refers to French emigrants and rebels, specifically rich nobles trying to leave France before the revolution that Marx predicted there. Nobody in America cares about the rights of the French nobility in exile from decades ago.

5. Done. See the Federal Reserve.

6. Done. See the FCC.

7. Done. The Department of Agriculture does this kind of stuff all the time.

8. Done. See 7, but also stimulus packages for industry and federal farm/business loans. Also farming subsidies.

9. Done. Agriculture in the US has been industrialized for over 50 years now.

10. Done. Child labour is no longer a thing, public schooling goes all the way to 18 years old and is designed to help you get a job.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

I should print a thousand copies of this post and mail them to Republican headquarters all over the nation. Maybe the collective impotent rage will make them screw up even more.

[Darvi]

So the US government is a communist conspiracy? What a tweest!

[SealyStar]

America is a communist country straight up. Let's look at the actual listed demands in the Communist Manifesto:

1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all right of inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equable distribution of population over the country.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc., etc.

1. Done. It's important to note that "property in land" here refers (in old-timey communist speak) the rights of the nobility to own demenses of land, tax their serfs whatever they want and ordain local laws. Given that America does not and has never had nobles, this isn't even a thing.

2. Done. The USA totally has progressive income tax, and basically nobody advocates a flat tax anymore, just whether our progressive income tax should be a little progressive or alot progressive.

3. Not quite done. You can still inherit money from your deceased relatives and such. But there are inheritance taxes and Congress can, if they so desire, set these taxes to be any amount they want, up to and including 100%.

4. Non-issue. This one specifically refers to French emigrants and rebels, specifically rich nobles trying to leave France before the revolution that Marx predicted there. Nobody in America cares about the rights of the French nobility in exile from decades ago.

5. Done. See the Federal Reserve.

6. Done. See the FCC.

7. Done. The Department of Agriculture does this kind of stuff all the time.

8. Done. See 7, but also stimulus packages for industry and federal farm/business loans. Also farming subsidies.

9. Done. Agriculture in the US has been industrialized for over 50 years now.

10. Done. Child labour is no longer a thing, public schooling goes all the way to 18 years old and is designed to help you get a job.

This is genius.

[darkflagrance]

America is a communist country straight up. Let's look at the actual listed demands in the Communist Manifesto:

1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all right of inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equable distribution of population over the country.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc., etc.

1. Done. It's important to note that "property in land" here refers (in old-timey communist speak) the rights of the nobility to own demenses of land, tax their serfs whatever they want and ordain local laws. Given that America does not and has never had nobles, this isn't even a thing.

2. Done. The USA totally has progressive income tax, and basically nobody advocates a flat tax anymore, just whether our progressive income tax should be a little progressive or alot progressive.

3. Not quite done. You can still inherit money from your deceased relatives and such. But there are inheritance taxes and Congress can, if they so desire, set these taxes to be any amount they want, up to and including 100%.

4. Non-issue. This one specifically refers to French emigrants and rebels, specifically rich nobles trying to leave France before the revolution that Marx predicted there. Nobody in America cares about the rights of the French nobility in exile from decades ago.

5. Done. See the Federal Reserve.

6. Done. See the FCC.

7. Done. The Department of Agriculture does this kind of stuff all the time.

8. Done. See 7, but also stimulus packages for industry and federal farm/business loans. Also farming subsidies.

9. Done. Agriculture in the US has been industrialized for over 50 years now.

10. Done. Child labour is no longer a thing, public schooling goes all the way to 18 years old and is designed to help you get a job.

I knew we shouldn't have elected an Islamic president named Hussein to the Whitehouse! This is all that communist sympathizer's fault!

[Grek]

But, seriously. Points 1, 3, 5, 7, 8 and 9 have been the case in America since before Karl Marx was even born. 2 has been the case for for the entire time the US has had an income tax at all. 10 has been the case for over 100 years now.

Don't worry about if a president is "communist" or if some policy is too "socialist" for you. That ship has sailed, and it likely sailed well before you were born, or even before your parents were born. Absolutely everyone is in America today is living in a Marxist country and nothing bad has come of it! You can stop worrying!

[Techhead]

But, seriously. Points 1, 3, 5, 7, 8 and 9 have been the case in America since before Karl Marx was even born. 2 has been the case for for the entire time the US has had an income tax at all. 10 has been the case for over 100 years now.

You do realize that Karl Marx was born in 1818, right? </nitpick>

[Grek]

Yes. All of the things I listed have been done by some department or another of the US government since before 1818. Not necessarily their current department, but some department.

[misko27]

You are a mad genius. I wonder If that makes Reagan a communist...

[FearfulJesuit]

What's the status on the fiscal cliff? Last I heard, Boehner and the White House have a deal they're putting the finishing touches on...and Boehner's lunatic colleagues won't vote for it.

[misko27]

What's the status on the fiscal cliff? Last I heard, Boehner and the White House have a deal they're putting the finishing touches on...and Boehner's lunatic colleagues won't vote for it.

That's news to me. Last I heard Obam put put a super Liberal plan and the Republicans responded with a plan that was a least a little concilitory.