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BastiBasti

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Differant Fortress Styles?
« on: December 30, 2011, 05:29:44 pm »

Yeh, i'm going to start a new fortress and i want to try a new play style. At the moment i'v just got a singly layer of my fort, with a room for workshops, a stockpile, a 10x10 dining room next to a large food stockpile with a kitchen built in ,lots of 3x3 bedrooms and 5x5 nobles room. BUt i would like to try something new, any idiers?
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Re: Differant Fortress Styles?
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2011, 05:36:08 pm »

My forts are always very organic, so things just tend to go where they seem appropriate...
I also end up getting bored and start designating multiple pathways around the fortress.
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Re: Differant Fortress Styles?
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2011, 05:39:31 pm »

I don'y understand. I see what you mean, but i mean things that can go anywhere, like stockpiles. I'm trying to get a more effective fortress design.
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Re: Differant Fortress Styles?
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2011, 05:39:44 pm »

1st floor: 21x21 room with a ramp going down the middle, along with 2 farm plots.
2nd floor:General work area. Usually a 15x15.
3rd floor: 2 31x31 stockpiles for everything except food.
4th floor: kitchen, with its' own 31x31 stopile, includes dining hall.
5th floor: bedroom and barracks.
6th floor: General Fun stuff, like arena or danger room.
7th and below:MINE MINE MINE!
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Re: Differant Fortress Styles?
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2011, 05:42:11 pm »

1st floor: 21x21 room with a ramp going down the middle, along with 2 farm plots.
2nd floor:General work area. Usually a 15x15.
3rd floor: 2 31x31 stockpiles for everything except food.
4th floor: kitchen, with its' own 31x31 stopile, includes dining hall.
5th floor: bedroom and barracks.
6th floor: General Fun stuff, like arena or danger room.
7th and below:MINE MINE MINE!

What are the bedrooms like, dormatories or 3X3's?
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Re: Differant Fortress Styles?
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2011, 05:42:19 pm »

Do nothing but exploratory mining and digging the metals and stuff you want, and build your fortress in the space you created this way.
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Re: Differant Fortress Styles?
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2011, 05:42:55 pm »

You think my styles okay then?
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Re: Differant Fortress Styles?
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2011, 05:43:57 pm »

1st floor: 21x21 room with a ramp going down the middle, along with 2 farm plots.
2nd floor:General work area. Usually a 15x15.
3rd floor: 2 31x31 stockpiles for everything except food.
4th floor: kitchen, with its' own 31x31 stopile, includes dining hall.
5th floor: bedroom and barracks.
6th floor: General Fun stuff, like arena or danger room.
7th and below:MINE MINE MINE!

What are the bedrooms like, dormatories or 3X3's?

4x4's, actually. I find them easier to mine out like that.
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Re: Differant Fortress Styles?
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2011, 05:48:01 pm »

Yeh, this is what i like about DF, at first you copy someone elses strategy then you unknowingly develop your own.
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Re: Differant Fortress Styles?
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2011, 05:58:31 pm »

Yeh, this is what i like about DF, at first you copy someone elses strategy then you unknowingly develop your own.

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Re: Differant Fortress Styles?
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2011, 07:36:00 pm »

I have a basic design I follow, but I haven't drawn it in completely.  However, when I dig a Hall I usually focus on three things:

     1 ) Pathing
     2 ) Defense
     3 ) Pathing!!!

This means that I like to group like industries together which use the same materials.  Butcher by Tanner by Candlestick maker etc. Also, assign the butcher a room near the butchery, the tanner a room near the tannery etc. This can speed up your fortress efficiency by 200%.  When it's all laid out, it tends to resemble a ball. Geometrically, a ball provides quickest access to all points within its boundaries.  And it allows for happy-inducing constructions like water-(or magma-)falls through the fortress and a central go-to area for booze, food, etc
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Re: Different Fortress Styles?
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2011, 07:41:55 pm »

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Floor 15

Guard tower.

Floor 14.

Barracks.

Floor 13.

Guard tower.

Floor 12.

Decent housing.

Floor 11.

Barracks.

Floor 10-1.

Tower.

Floor G

EVERYTHING.

Anything below that, quarry.
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Re: Different Fortress Styles?
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2011, 09:09:01 pm »

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Floor 12.

Decent housing.


Oh? And what if you get a ton of Dwarves that you don't have enough beds for?
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Re: Differant Fortress Styles?
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2011, 09:25:12 pm »

Starting at the top and working down:

Floor B1 (above my main entrance): Hospital
Floor 1: Farms, farm related workshops, food stockpiles
Floor 2: Workshops
Floor 3: Stockpiles for workshops
Floor 4: Main hall w/ food/drink stockpile
Floor 5: Apartments
Floor 6: Apartments
Floor 7: Jail
Floor 8: Crypt
Floor 9 and below: Mining
Floor wherever magma is: Forges
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Re: Different Fortress Styles?
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2011, 09:38:50 pm »

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Floor 12.

Decent housing.


Oh? And what if you get a ton of Dwarves that you don't have enough beds for?

Make enough beds. Over the life of a fortress, 200 wood really isn't much.
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