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[Frumple]

hey there are families that can handle it, i say anything over 5 is beyond retarded

World has a finite number of resources. I can't really articulate how short sighted the view you're expressing is, but basically, our species does not need more people. We need considerably less. Constantly having more is going to kill us, full stop. It doesn't mean that we have to go killing off our population, but if we don't curtail the growth somehow -- which means that folks have to internalize that large families == bad -- our species is going to die.

Overpopulation sometimes leads to the numbers in the area in question dying back. It's also liable to cause complete extinction for the species in the geographical area in question. Our geographical area is 'earth,' and we're overpopulating at an insane rate. Obvious likelyhood is obvious. We could use a g'damn rubber and not breed once we've got one or two kids, or, a few generations from now, we run headfirst into an extinction even of our own cause.

Problem being that the majority of our species either can't or won't think on that timescale. Thus, again, death by stupidity. About the only chance we have is science pulling something incredible out of its ass, which'll push the issue further down the line.

Fiery nuclear apocalypse is a helluva' lot more appealing than mass starvation. Much faster, if nothing else.

We are not over populated yet, nor are we really close to what our sure to be too low knowledge of the carrying capacity of earth is.

We're close enough that if we don't slow shit down soon, it's not going to be stoppable. We also are horrifically overpopulated in certain areas, which causes a helluva' lot more suffering than is even remotely necessary.

[Bouchart]

Overpopulation is a third world problem.  In the West, population growth would be negative were it not for immigration, and in some places is negative even with immigration.

[Tellemurius]

hey there are families that can handle it, i say anything over 5 is beyond retarded

World has a finite number of resources. I can't really articulate how short sighted the view you're expressing is, but basically, our species does not need more people. We need considerably less. Constantly having more is going to kill us, full stop. It doesn't mean that we have to go killing off our population, but if we don't curtail the growth somehow -- which means that folks have to internalize that large families == bad -- our species is going to die.

Overpopulation sometimes leads to the numbers in the area in question dying back. It's also liable to cause complete extinction for the species in the geographical area in question. Our geographical area is 'earth,' and we're overpopulating at an insane rate. Obvious likelyhood is obvious. We could use a g'damn rubber and not breed once we've got one or two kids, or, a few generations from now, we run headfirst into an extinction even of our own cause.

Problem being that the majority of our species either can't or won't think on that timescale. Thus, again, death by stupidity. About the only chance we have is science pulling something incredible out of its ass, which'll push the issue further down the line.

Fiery nuclear apocalypse is a helluva' lot more appealing than mass starvation. Much faster, if nothing else.

Thats stupid, you are telling me that we have to cut down on people even though there are families that are capable to handle themselves. We aren't the poor countries, the united states alone produces x10 more food than their own population consumes. you tell me thats not enough?

[UltraValican]

hey there are families that can handle it, i say anything over 5 is beyond retarded

World has a finite number of resources. I can't really articulate how short sighted the view you're expressing is, but basically, our species does not need more people. We need considerably less. Constantly having more is going to kill us, full stop. It doesn't mean that we have to go killing off our population, but if we don't curtail the growth somehow -- which means that folks have to internalize that large families == bad -- our species is going to die.

Overpopulation sometimes leads to the numbers in the area in question dying back. It's also liable to cause complete extinction for the species in the geographical area in question. Our geographical area is 'earth,' and we're overpopulating at an insane rate. Obvious likelyhood is obvious. We could use a g'damn rubber and not breed once we've got one or two kids, or, a few generations from now, we run headfirst into an extinction even of our own cause.

Problem being that the majority of our species either can't or won't think on that timescale. Thus, again, death by stupidity. About the only chance we have is science pulling something incredible out of its ass, which'll push the issue further down the line.

Fiery nuclear apocalypse is a helluva' lot more appealing than mass starvation. Much faster, if nothing else.

Thats stupid, you are telling me that we have to cut down on people even though there are families that are capable to handle themselves. We aren't the poor countries, the united states alone produces x10 more food than their own population consumes. you tell me thats not enough?

How much of that is proccessed junk, decadent, scrumptious processed junk.

[Tellemurius]

hey there are families that can handle it, i say anything over 5 is beyond retarded

World has a finite number of resources. I can't really articulate how short sighted the view you're expressing is, but basically, our species does not need more people. We need considerably less. Constantly having more is going to kill us, full stop. It doesn't mean that we have to go killing off our population, but if we don't curtail the growth somehow -- which means that folks have to internalize that large families == bad -- our species is going to die.

Overpopulation sometimes leads to the numbers in the area in question dying back. It's also liable to cause complete extinction for the species in the geographical area in question. Our geographical area is 'earth,' and we're overpopulating at an insane rate. Obvious likelyhood is obvious. We could use a g'damn rubber and not breed once we've got one or two kids, or, a few generations from now, we run headfirst into an extinction even of our own cause.

Problem being that the majority of our species either can't or won't think on that timescale. Thus, again, death by stupidity. About the only chance we have is science pulling something incredible out of its ass, which'll push the issue further down the line.

Fiery nuclear apocalypse is a helluva' lot more appealing than mass starvation. Much faster, if nothing else.

Thats stupid, you are telling me that we have to cut down on people even though there are families that are capable to handle themselves. We aren't the poor countries, the united states alone produces x10 more food than their own population consumes. you tell me thats not enough?

How much of that is proccessed junk, decadent, scrumptious processed junk.

85% i believe but no matter what its consumable.

[Ultimuh]

When everyone have completely obliderated each other, we who lives in less populated areas such as Greenland will survive take over repopulate ze world! MUWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!

Seriously, mankind is adaptable enough to survive an apocalypse or two.

[Loud Whispers]

We are not over populated yet, nor are we really close to what our sure to be too low knowledge of the carrying capacity of earth is.

Sustained by nitrogen farming.

NITROGEN. Scary.

[Tellemurius]

When everyone have completely obliderated each other, we who lives in less populated areas such as Greenland will survive take over repopulate ze world! MUWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!

But don't you guys require imports for food?

[Frumple]

Overpopulation is a third world problem.  In the West, population growth would be negative were it not for immigration, and in some places is negative even with immigration.

Thats stupid, you are telling me that we have to cut down on people even though there are families that are capable to handle themselves. We aren't the poor countries, the united states alone produces x10 more food than their own population consumes. you tell me thats not enough?

Yeah, the problem with both those outlooks?

The world has finite resources. I really can't emphasis that g'damn enough. 7 billion people on the planet is not a 'third world problem' it's a 'going to fucking kill all of us' problem. Sticking our heads beneath the sand in our fenced community doesn't help anything.

That's the issue. The whole freaking bloody thing. Resources == finite. Growth =/= infinite. Global situation == not-freaking-ignorable. The belief that those three are somehow untrue is going to kill our species if it doesn't change, or something more direct (i.e. boom) doesn't intervene. But as things are, and seem to be going, it won't change, so we're screwed. Species level death by stupidity.

As for it 'not being enough'... millions die of starvation and malnutrition, yearly, right now. No. It's not enough.

[Loud Whispers]

...Erm yeah. Is the world going to end in 2012? Depends if Cthulhu set his alarm clock for 9. BUT WE'RE DOOOOOOOOOOOOMED regardless, so have !FUN! everyone

[Ultimuh]

When everyone have completely obliderated each other, we who lives in less populated areas such as Greenland will survive take over repopulate ze world! MUWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!

But don't you guys require imports for food?

Why do people always assume imports are the only way to survive in Greenland?

[Loud Whispers]

When everyone have completely obliderated each other, we who lives in less populated areas such as Greenland will survive take over repopulate ze world! MUWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!

But don't you guys require imports for food?

Why do people always assume imports are the only way to survive in Greenland?

Honestly I don't think Greenland is on the top list of everyone's minds right now.

[UltraValican]

When everyone have completely obliderated each other, we who lives in less populated areas such as Greenland will survive take over repopulate ze world! MUWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!

But don't you guys require imports for food?

Why do people always assume imports are the only way to survive in Greenland?

Because cannibalism is frowned upon in most societies

[Tellemurius]

Overpopulation is a third world problem.  In the West, population growth would be negative were it not for immigration, and in some places is negative even with immigration.

Thats stupid, you are telling me that we have to cut down on people even though there are families that are capable to handle themselves. We aren't the poor countries, the united states alone produces x10 more food than their own population consumes. you tell me thats not enough?

Yeah, the problem with both those outlooks?

The world has finite resources. I really can't emphasis that g'damn enough. 7 billion people on the planet is not a 'third world problem' it's a 'going to fucking kill all of us' problem. Sticking our heads beneath the sand in our fenced community doesn't help anything.

That's the issue. The whole freaking bloody thing. Resources == finite. Growth =/= infinite. Global situation == not-freaking-ignorable. The belief that those three are somehow untrue is going to kill our species if it doesn't change, or something more direct (i.e. boom) doesn't intervene. But as things are, and seem to be going, it won't change, so we're screwed. Species level death by stupidity.

As for it 'not being enough'... millions die of starvation and malnutrition, yearly, right now. No. It's not enough.

RECYCLE

You realize that we are advancing in recovery technology? What was built can be dismantle and made new. The shit never goes away just you need to figure out how to extract it. don't be pressing this inevitable bullshit on me, we still have ideas to populate space for godsake. By the time earth hits the max we be sittin on the moon or fucking mars by then.

Basic rule of matter: it cannot be destroyed, only be shaped or transfer into energy.

[Ultimuh]

When everyone have completely obliderated each other, we who lives in less populated areas such as Greenland will survive take over repopulate ze world! MUWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!

But don't you guys require imports for food?

Why do people always assume imports are the only way to survive in Greenland?

Because cannibalism is frowned upon in most societies