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[UltraValican]

The sad thing is, a lot of people are going to commit suicide, or are right now.

You say it like it's a bad thing.

If you're stupid enough to believe that the world has any greater chance of ending in 2012 than any other year, I don't want you in the gene pool.

Aaand thats how sh*t like the Holocaust starts.
I'd take the Mayans more seriously if they got around to making pants before calanders.

[Svarte Troner]

Who said Ragnarök will be in 2012?

[Flying Dice]

Who said Ragnarök will be in 2012?

A bunch of enlightened people who also believe that the world will end at midnight, 31 December, 2011, if nobody bothers to print calendars for 2012.

[Itnetlolor]

I think this Magus quote from Chrono Trigger sums up my feelings best about the Apocalypse and any potential rapture.

"If I die, let me die. If the world ends, let it end. But if what I do causes me to vanish, I will be amused."

It was said among one of the many endings to that game, and sounds pretty badass. Said before he takes on Lavos solo in his uninterrupted pursuit through Zeal's ocean palace.



Anyway, with recent events, I think the Mayans got it right when the end of the cycle means a new beginning, and the clock essentially resets itself back to the beginning (or another cycle we aren't aware of that predicts the "real end" in 6450 A.D. or some crap like that). But anyway, I think Revelations, Ragnarok, and so on's apocalyptic messages weren't meant for the common man, but instead was a warning to the governing elites to change their ways, or face consequences for their actions, and those words were spun to involve everyone else as part of a colossal indiscriminate attack from God or something so that they can have a few more last moments of control over the weak-minded types that believe everything they hear.

Oddly enough, that makes me optimistic about "The End". It's the end of the world as we know it. This world turned into a shithole. After 2012, hopefully enough people will change their ways for the better, and we'll actually improve as a whole world. The again, knowing the track record of the human race, I could be wrong.


As for what I'd be doing when the time comes, nothing really. Just throwing an Apocalypse party or hanging out online commenting on what's going on during that day. Afterwards, commenting on a sudden population boom that ensues 9 months later. At least my high school reunion the year after will be more interesting since it takes place not long after the 2012 Apocalypse times. I'd just be laughing my butt off if I notice a majority of the girls that were in my class are a few months into their pregnancies upon their arrivals.

[Loud Whispers]

I think 2012 is going to be an interesting year, simply because in the future, the future will be our present. Plus the last decade has been lowsy for the world. If it's going to be the end of the world, who the hell cares? We won't be around to be like:
"Oh damn, shit just asploded." Because we'd be dead.

Otherwise, happy trulululz for all around

[Fenrir]

People earned millions off books, television programs, movies, and underground bunkers — the 2012 nonesense has served its purpose.

[Grakelin]

I already posited evidence on these forums that all the other times the Mayan calendar ended something horrendous happened to their civilization, but it got clogged with a number of very smug, very inarticulate skeptics before anybody who actually commonly contributes here really saw it (except Cthulhu, he's a smart guy and he posted there), and it was soon locked.

Which is unfortunate, because it hadn't been my purpose. I don't think the world is really going to come to an end in 2012 (well, it might, but South America will have little to do with it if it does). I also don't believe that the world is flat or that all life sprang forth exactly as we see it today. But I do believe in critical thinking, and falling into the belief in what scientists believe in without doing any research or giving it any thought simply because we trust scientists is the same as putting our belief in what priests believe in for the same reasons. Scientists work hard, so it behooves us to examine the work.

[Capntastic]

Scientists aren't the ones making the positive claim that 2012 is the end of the world though, so your duality doesn't hold up.

[Loud Whispers]

And you could easily look over all of the evidence yourself

I'm more worried about the imminent solar maximi.

End of electricity = Asplosions for all

But the closest one is going to be one of the weakest ones yet, so the 2012 idea is probably only going to come true if someone on Earth presses the red button D:

[Fiskav]

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[Cthulhu]

Saying "I don't think the 2012 thing is true" implies that it being true is possible.

"I am aware of the fact that the 2012 thing isn't true" is the best way to express it.

[UltraValican]

Saying "I don't think the 2012 thing is true" implies that it being true is possible.

"I am aware of the fact that the 2012 thing isn't true" is the best way to express it.

The two sentances mean the same thing, as long as you don't nitpick.

[Dakk]

We've survived several raptures and "stealth earthquakes" till now, I don't think another "world will end on year X" thing is gonna do much more.

[Il Palazzo]

Saying "I don't think the 2012 thing is true" implies that it being true is possible.

"I am aware of the fact that the 2012 thing isn't true" is the best way to express it.

The two sentances mean the same thing, as long as you don't nitpick.

No they don't. It's like saying agnosticism and atheism are the same thing.

[Loud Whispers]

Saying "I don't think the 2012 thing is true" implies that it being true is possible.

"I am aware of the fact that the 2012 thing isn't true" is the best way to express it.

The two sentances mean the same thing, as long as you don't nitpick.

No they don't. It's like saying agnosticism and atheism are the same thing.

Yup. I mean as far as we know on the 21st of Dec. 2012 Lovecraftian beings will spill unto the Earth and rend our universe into 0.