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Re: If you care about your military, you will do this during year 1 of the fort.
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2011, 10:29:06 pm »
Good idea.  I typically train my military by sending them to fight wildlife with a training sword (and armor) so lots of my casualties come from drowning in ponds. 
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Re: If you care about your military, you will do this during year 1 of the fort.
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2011, 03:14:22 am »
Pro Tip: add a floor over the water.
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Re: If you care about your military, you will do this during year 1 of the fort.
« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2011, 04:30:22 am »
Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on December 21, 2011, 09:51:27 pm
Quote from: King DZA on December 21, 2011, 03:39:01 pm
Very nice advice.

Although, there's always the option of, you know, not fighting next to water.
Good luck.
Luck?  There's no luck involved in taking a few weeks out of the first year to seal over any open pools near where you might be fighting.
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Re: If you care about your military, you will do this during year 1 of the fort.
« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2011, 05:36:53 am »
Quote from: blaize9 on December 22, 2011, 03:14:22 am
Pro Tip: add a floor over the water.
true, that works, but a ramp next to each one works almost as well and takes a tiny fraction of the time.
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Re: If you care about your military, you will do this during year 1 of the fort.
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2011, 06:49:20 am »
Embark in haunted, terrifying and savage deserts. No murky pools :P
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Re: If you care about your military, you will do this during year 1 of the fort.
« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2011, 04:42:33 pm »
Quote from: malroth on December 21, 2011, 07:11:59 pm
they'll still drown in 6/7   you'd need a mix of 4/7 and 3/7 tiles for your plan to work
This used to be the case, but now only 7/7 water drowns dwarves. They still start to train swimming in 4/7 or deeper.
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Re: If you care about your military, you will do this during year 1 of the fort.
« Reply #21 on: December 25, 2011, 10:06:59 am »
Quote from: Sutremaine on December 23, 2011, 04:42:33 pm
Quote from: malroth on December 21, 2011, 07:11:59 pm
they'll still drown in 6/7   you'd need a mix of 4/7 and 3/7 tiles for your plan to work
This used to be the case, but now only 7/7 water drowns dwarves. They still start to train swimming in 4/7 or deeper.

about training the swimming skill, would having a not full pool (with tides and such) do something dangerous to your dorfs, like smacking them against the wall or something?
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Re: If you care about your military, you will do this during year 1 of the fort.
« Reply #22 on: December 25, 2011, 10:12:22 am »
Quote from: SirFellfire on December 25, 2011, 10:06:59 am
Quote from: Sutremaine on December 23, 2011, 04:42:33 pm
Quote from: malroth on December 21, 2011, 07:11:59 pm
they'll still drown in 6/7   you'd need a mix of 4/7 and 3/7 tiles for your plan to work
This used to be the case, but now only 7/7 water drowns dwarves. They still start to train swimming in 4/7 or deeper.

about training the swimming skill, would having a not full pool (with tides and such) do something dangerous to your dorfs, like smacking them against the wall or something?
no.

That being said, I like to train my dwarves swimming ability itself. Just make one of their training grounds a 1x1 square surrounded on 7 sides with a pool. When the fall in, they have to swim toward a underwater staircase several tiles away to get back to the training room. Unfortunately it also makes sparring a lot slower... so I don't recommend this take over every area.
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Re: If you care about your military, you will do this during year 1 of the fort.
« Reply #23 on: December 25, 2011, 11:00:53 am »
Quote from: malimbar04 on December 25, 2011, 10:12:22 am
Quote from: SirFellfire on December 25, 2011, 10:06:59 am
Quote from: Sutremaine on December 23, 2011, 04:42:33 pm
Quote from: malroth on December 21, 2011, 07:11:59 pm
they'll still drown in 6/7   you'd need a mix of 4/7 and 3/7 tiles for your plan to work
This used to be the case, but now only 7/7 water drowns dwarves. They still start to train swimming in 4/7 or deeper.

about training the swimming skill, would having a not full pool (with tides and such) do something dangerous to your dorfs, like smacking them against the wall or something?
no.

That being said, I like to train my dwarves swimming ability itself. Just make one of their training grounds a 1x1 square surrounded on 7 sides with a pool. When the fall in, they have to swim toward a underwater staircase several tiles away to get back to the training room. Unfortunately it also makes sparring a lot slower... so I don't recommend this take over every area.

lol a danger corridor to get to a drowning training area... my dwarves are going to attend to a whole fucking boot camp only to spar  :D
also can they swim through z levels? i would love to get them to get out of the water just by the food stockpile, so they have a chance to do their shit before going to their jobs, instead of suddenly taking a booze break just on arriving
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Re: If you care about your military, you will do this during year 1 of the fort.
« Reply #24 on: December 25, 2011, 03:19:22 pm »
They can swim z lvls, and you can even make Dorf super swim highways this way. Just make sure they actually know how to swim first....
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Re: If you care about your military, you will do this during year 1 of the fort.
« Reply #25 on: December 25, 2011, 03:25:19 pm »
thanks for your answer, i can already see my fortress full of futurama-like tubes  :D
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Quote from: eggrock on November 10, 2011, 07:53:22 pm
I recorded happiness levels, pulled the lever and recorded them again.
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Also, Aussie Evil is doing fine. He's taken a lover recently. Everyone has. This is the fortress of love.

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Re: If you care about your military, you will do this during year 1 of the fort.
« Reply #26 on: December 25, 2011, 03:34:03 pm »
Quote from: SirFellfire on December 25, 2011, 03:25:19 pm
thanks for your answer, i can already see my fortress full of futurama-like tubes  :D

With drowning babies everywhere o-o
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Re: If you care about your military, you will do this during year 1 of the fort.
« Reply #27 on: December 25, 2011, 04:14:09 pm »
Quote from: Loud Whispers on December 25, 2011, 03:34:03 pm
drowning babies everywhere o-o

I wonder if this could fit into my sig...
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Re: If you care about your military, you will do this during year 1 of the fort.
« Reply #28 on: December 25, 2011, 05:18:37 pm »
Quote from: Oliolli on December 25, 2011, 04:14:09 pm
Quote from: Loud Whispers on December 25, 2011, 03:34:03 pm
drowning babies everywhere o-o

I wonder if this could fit into my sig...

Force it to? >:D
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Re: If you care about your military, you will do this during year 1 of the fort.
« Reply #29 on: December 25, 2011, 05:54:57 pm »
I guess Necro can make some room now...

And now we wait for an escaped lunatic (perhaps named Necro911) to object...
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