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Author Topic: Draining tons of cavern water, possible?  (Read 3713 times)

Sphalerite

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Re: Draining tons of cavern water, possible?
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2011, 08:33:21 am »

Use a magma-safe metal bin.  Put a block (or mug or other item you can put in a bin) made of a flammable stone in it.  Wash the bin with magma, then drop it in the water.
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« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2011, 10:16:32 am »

It should be noted that nuclear bins at least used to insta-kill any dwarf who came within 3 tiles of them once they were lit.  I have not done the !!science!! since we switched to the new wound system, but i imagine the intense heat produced is still pretty lethal.  So once you've got the bins placed and loaded you're going to want to automate the rest of the operation from afar.
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Re: Draining tons of cavern water, possible?
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2011, 10:33:34 am »

Or assign some special dwarfes to do it. :P
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Re: Draining tons of cavern water, possible?
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2011, 10:52:32 am »

Also be aware that a "nuclear bin" will only burn for 9 and a half months (9 months, 16.8 days) before the fuel is exhausted.
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Re: Draining tons of cavern water, possible?
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2011, 10:59:41 am »

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Re: Draining tons of cavern water, possible?
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2011, 11:23:42 am »

I hate you guys, giving me ideas I want to do but not the expirience to do them.
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Re: Draining tons of cavern water, possible?
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2011, 11:25:28 am »

I hate you guys, giving me ideas I want to do but not the expirience to do them.

In any other game, I would say you'll learn in time. But this is DF, so try the most complicated thing you can think of. If you succeed, you now have experience :P

If you fail, you now have !FUN! :P

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Re: Draining tons of cavern water, possible?
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2011, 11:33:18 am »

The most complicated thing I can think of is pumping this magma up past my 6 caverns and then actually keeping the game playable.  I'm probably going to need to abandon soon.

Related question:  Is there any way I can block of the water below by maybe dropping something through hatches?  Any items that won't shatter on impact and can block water maybe?
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Re: Draining tons of cavern water, possible?
« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2011, 11:34:23 am »

The most complicated thing I can think of is pumping this magma up past my 6 caverns and then actually keeping the game playable.  I'm probably going to need to abandon soon.

Related question:  Is there any way I can block of the water below by maybe dropping something through hatches?  Any items that won't shatter on impact and can block water maybe?

I suppose you could build unsupported walls through floor grates, but this could lead to some Dwarf casualties along the way...

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Re: Draining tons of cavern water, possible?
« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2011, 11:37:22 am »

Walls shatter after a few Z-layer drop don't they?

Edit:  If not I could easily make this happen with no casualties, I'm not dorfy enough to lose dorfs like that :(
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Re: Draining tons of cavern water, possible?
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2011, 11:37:57 am »

Natural rock doesn't shatter when it is dropped =)
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Re: Draining tons of cavern water, possible?
« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2011, 11:39:14 am »

Natural rock isn't replacable so if I do it wrong the first time... Worth a shot though.
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Re: Draining tons of cavern water, possible?
« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2011, 01:42:35 pm »

If there is a lower, empty cavern, you can use the edges there to drain the lake.  The edges only refill it when there is supposed to be a lake past limit where the fort area ends.  Make the space between a waterfall dining room!
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Re: Draining tons of cavern water, possible?
« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2011, 02:10:00 pm »

I am just brainstorming here, but what about dropping the above X layers down onto the edge and out a square, where X is the dept of the lake? A lot like how you use a "plug" or "cave-in" when mining through an Aquifer level?

Details on plug/cave-in here: http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/Aquifer

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Re: Draining tons of cavern water, possible?
« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2011, 05:05:22 am »

Also be aware that a "nuclear bin" will only burn for 9 and a half months (9 months, 16.8 days) before the fuel is exhausted.

Thanks guys for all the answers. I considered steam generation with magma and water but it turned out to be rather a obsidian party. The burning bin is a clean and neat way to generate steam. It's hazardous and I need to provide guardrails for occupational safety. But steam is progress and the effort will be worth it, I am sure.
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