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Go after the rogue Captain

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Retrive the Fragile Cargo

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Drone Clearence

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Some Easy Escourt duty

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Screw all you rule obeying fools! There are other means of credit procurement!

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Total Members Voted: 3

[Angle]

Let's not bother with the cargo-ship, just file salvage claims and point guns at anyone who doesn't respect them.

[Immortal]

Proposal of a Plan
Lets get a net, but not jump with the loot. We can have the Flarewise jump and dump them on the other side. Then the Firestar also go through and we can net them back to Galvenn. If we can get all the fighters back to the station we are in good shape.

Check the local stations, see if we can have one of our ships hang around with a net full of fighters for a while. To entice the stations tell them we will be hiring men to work on our ship and stuff while staying. Good business!
We could have the Flarewise chill there. We would hire station hands and convert our fighters to remote ones, shrink them down and then build a system to hold them in the Flarewise. In the meantime the Firestar hops to Braben Hall to sell what we don't want or does more missions. We can decide the details once we get the fighters back to station.

[Armok]

Ok, plan B: Go there, deactivate and cool and generally stealth  the fighters, launch them on trajectories unfindable to anyone who don't know where to look. This should give us more time to do several back and forth trips fetching and selling them, even if it means casing them down on each visit will take a while.

[Angle]

hmm. let's see, plans -

A) Grab them as fast as we can, file salvage claims, threaten anyone who tries to poach.

B) Hide fighters, Get them as fast as we can.

C) use net shenanigans.

I lean for a combination of A and B, the net shenanigans sound like more trouble than they're worth. also, I'm beginning to reconsider hiring that cargo-ship - we could probably make good use out of it. How long would it take such a ship to make these trips?

[10ebbor10]

Also, is fuel included in the price?

[Angle]

hmm. So I'm thinking we should hold on to the good fighters, and set ourselves up with a bunch of them in the flarewise.

[Immortal]

Okay, yea my plan was a little complicated haha.. Lets not cut our profits with that other ship though. I am up for the plan A/B. See if there is a hanger we can rent in Galvenn? We can dump everything in there, leaving us with room for 75.

I'm partial to keeping all the fighters and retrofitting them. We can fill the Flarewise with swarm like fighters. Sell everything we don't need.

[Angle]

We don't have room for all the fighters, which is why i wan to keep just the good ones. But renting a hangar is a good idea.

[Jerick]

Proposal of a Plan
Lets get a net, but not jump with the loot. We can have the Flarewise jump and dump them on the other side. Then the Firestar also go through and we can net them back to Galvenn. If we can get all the fighters back to the station we are in good shape.

Check the local stations, see if we can have one of our ships hang around with a net full of fighters for a while. To entice the stations tell them we will be hiring men to work on our ship and stuff while staying. Good business!
We could have the Flarewise chill there. We would hire station hands and convert our fighters to remote ones, shrink them down and then build a system to hold them in the Flarewise. In the meantime the Firestar hops to Braben Hall to sell what we don't want or does more missions. We can decide the details once we get the fighters back to station.

The local stations deny you permission to hang around with a net full of fighters because they tell you they're certain it won't end will and don't want debris of broken fighters difting around their busy stations.

Ok, plan B: Go there, deactivate and cool and generally stealth  the fighters, launch them on trajectories unfindable to anyone who don't know where to look. This should give us more time to do several back and forth trips fetching and selling them, even if it means casing them down on each visit will take a while.

They're already deactivated and cooling down though anyone going to investigate the destroyed mining base turned pirate haeven stands a chance at stumbling onto them.

How long would it take such a ship to make these trips?

Six hours one way, twelve for a round trip.

Also, is fuel included in the price?

Yes

See if there is a hanger we can rent in Galvenn? We can dump everything in there, leaving us with room for 75.

Hanger space is 10 credits per fighter, 15 per shuttle or shuttle sized craft or you could rent warehouse space for 50 credits which can fit all of the Flarewise's cargo capacity (all prices are per day)

[Angle]

let's not rent anything, let's just sell the knells and keep the others.

[Armok]

Ok, plan B: Go there, deactivate and cool and generally stealth  the fighters, launch them on trajectories unfindable to anyone who don't know where to look. This should give us more time to do several back and forth trips fetching and selling them, even if it means casing them down on each visit will take a while.

They're already deactivated and cooling down though anyone going to investigate the destroyed mining base turned pirate haeven stands a chance at stumbling onto them.

Yea. i meant cooling them into the Firestars heatsinks, much faster, and putting them all on different, and a fair bit more distant orbits.

[Immortal]

I was curious and did some math, turns out if we sell the fighters for half price of what it costs us to buy, they are worth 247 000 credits. I figure we will keep the Halkers and Ravenwinds. So that leaves us with around 120 000 credits in fighters to sell. Lets rent the Flarewise sized hanger, empty both holds. Then we bring the loot to Galvenn(short trip, less time for the fighters to be found). On one trip we can bring 75 fighters, therefore 2 trips needed to get it to Galvenn. The cost of the hanger is small in comparison. From there we can bring it to Braben Hall to sell.

Fighter values

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Assuming things are sold at half-price of new?
92 Knells (92 000 credits) Sell
23 Halker Fighterbombers (55 000 credits) Keep
20 Ravenwind Fighters (70 000 credits) Keep
5 vesker torpedo bombers (30 000 credits) Probably keep 1 or 2?

[Jerick]

I was curious and did some math, turns out if we sell the fighters for half price of what it costs us to buy, they are worth 247 000 credits. I figure we will keep the Halkers and Ravenwinds. So that leaves us with around 120 000 credits in fighters to sell. Lets rent the Flarewise sized hanger, empty both holds. Then we bring the loot to Galvenn(short trip, less time for the fighters to be found). On one trip we can bring 75 fighters, therefore 2 trips needed to get it to Galvenn. The cost of the hanger is small in comparison. From there we can bring it to Braben Hall to sell.

Fighter values

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Assuming things are sold at half-price of new?
92 Knells (92 000 credits) Sell
23 Halker Fighterbombers (55 000 credits) Keep
20 Ravenwind Fighters (70 000 credits) Keep
5 vesker torpedo bombers (30 000 credits) Probably keep 1 or 2?

The complete unloading of the Flarewise, the two twelve hour round trips, the gathering up of the fighters, the effort of finding enough buyers for 92 knell fighters all adds up to about 26 hours of work.
By the time you've finished though the crew of the Flarewise have added the lower turret mount which used up 20 advanced fabrication components.

Spoiler: Galvenn four goods (click to show/hide)

Flak Shells; 6 credits per shell
Gatling Round: 1 credit per 9 rounds
4 inch cannon shells; 6 credits per shell
Point Defence Turret; 580 credits
4 inch repeater cannon; 795 credits
Fuel; 1 per unit
Rations; 1 per unit
Crawler Drone; 230 credits
Signal Missile; 10 credits (a small, dumbfire missile with no payload, but it has a long range and an impressive thermal emssion)
Satellite; 300 credits (stationary, sensor and comns relay)
(The following are used in making things like your flak drone)
Basic Fabrication componenets; 1 per unit (can also be made from scrap using basic tools)
Advanced Fabrication componenents; 3 per unit (can also be made from Basic Fabrication componenets using advanced tools)
Basic electronic componenets; 1 per unit
Advanced electronic componenets; 4 per unit
Advanced tools; 275 credits (this is to get a huge set of tools and machines with many duplicates so people can work simulatenously)
Data Courier; 12,902 credits (fully automous drone, capable of jumping and bring information to neighbouring systems, artifical scarcity)
Armour Plates Basic; 50 credits per unit
Reflective Armour Plates; 90 credits per unit (Better versus energy weapons)
Ablative Armour Plates; 190 credits per unit (Takes less damage from energy weapons)
Reactive Armour Plates; 70 credits per unit (Better versus armor peneitating weapons, solids and explosives, takes more damage from such weapons than regular armour)
Cooled Plate; 45 credits (fragile but makes sensor detection harder, good for withstanding abient heat sources)
Mining Drill; 360 credits
Second hand shuttle: 8,000 credits
Countermeasures; 5 credits each

Black market
Missiles:

• Gilber: Large Payload dumb fire; 35 credits each, 39 available.
• Ravenhawk: Medium Payload, agile, heat seaking, long range; 65 credits each, 26 available.
• Blinder: Sensor chaff, fast, slow to turn guided; 65 credits each, 16 available
• Cluster: 5xInterceptor missile cluster, slow, guided; 136 credits each, 31 available
• Driller Nuke: Nuclear Payload, guided, long range, bores through armor; 1803 credits each, 0 available
• Interceptor: Very small payload, very small size, extreamly fast, very agile, target seeker; 20 credits, 45 available
• Tether Anchor: No payload, very short range, guided, attaches line; 20 credits, 30 available
• Hammer: Large Payload, short range, guided; 65 credits, 29 available
• Guided Remote Mine: Medium Payload, medium range, very slow, can attach to surfaces, proximity activation option; 50 credits, 15 available
• Fighter Hunter:Very small payload, very small size, extreamly fast, very agile, heat seeker; 15 credits, 6 available
• Fighter Destroyer Cluster Missile: 10xFighter Hunter missile cluster, large size, slow, self  guided; 190 credits, 10 available
• Torpedo: Very Large payload, long range, very slow speed, self guided; 98 credits, 8 available

[li]Hound; Small Payload, small size, fast agile, guided; 32 credits, 2 available[/li][/list]

Ilegal tech:
Comns Jammer; 8200 (works for twenty minutes each time it's activated, jams long range only)
Stealth probe; 1200 (difficult to spot on sensors, very fast, very powerful passive sensor array)
Knell fighter; 1000 (one of the most inferior fighters available but in the hands of a skilled pilot it can still be a deadly force)
Halker Fighter/Bomber; 5700 (Competent fighter designed around a single medium sized launcher)
Ravenwind Fighter; 7345 (fast agile fighter mounting three forward weapons and one rear one, armoured)
Vesker Torpedo Bomber; 12,320 (Large but fast ship with four large launchers but little other offensive ability)
Emp; 1500 (disables all non shielded electronic devices within a small radius around your ship, not reusable)
Transponder Replacement; 2000 (All transponders have the ships details hard coded into, but you can allways get these conterfit replacement)
Quiet engine(shuttle); 6000 credits
Quiet engine(Fighter); 3250 credits

Thanks to your reccent windfall of sold Knell fighters now got a significant amount of cash to throw around.

Spoiler: Nav computer (click to show/hide)

Tabien System
Galvenn (known shipyard)

• Galvenn 1
• Galvenn 2
• Galvenn 3
• Galvenn 4 mining world; Trade station, military base, shipyard
• Asteroid belt

Jayld
Vrinis
Ilbrier (Digital Rights Front Headquarters)
The disputed Zone
Lastros Ak'Mkal
Braben Hall (Black market)
N 5647
N 2059 Hermin's Valley(Pirate Base)

Spoiler: Firestar status (click to show/hide)

Credits: 149,838
Hull damage: multiple hull breaches
Armor: Moderate
System Damage: Minor Damage
Computing Power: 200,000
Weapon Status: Ready to fire
Weapons: four point defence turrets (energy based)
4 inch repeater cannon turrets x2
twin linked railguns
400 missile tubes
Railgun shells: 30 (Railgun shells do more damage but the railguns can still fire scrap metal if need be)
4 inch Cannon shells: 29

Missiles:

• Tether Anchor x2 (currently in use: 0)
• Giber
• Ravenhawk x13
• Hammer x2
• Hound x7
• Fighter Hunters x10

Crew:24 (1 cast)+(1 away for treatment on Tabien)
Specialists: Doctor 1/ Hacker 1/ Security 1/ Fighter pilots 1
Crew Morale: Above normal
Crew rations: 242 (one crew ration per crew memeber consumed per day)

Computer System:
Type: Armok Modular system
Modules: Superior Targeting (Turrets + main gun)
Custom sysems Automation(Systems, doors, lifesupport all respond automaticly to crisis situations, are automatic and only active when needed saving power)
Customised manuvering and thrusters (The Firestar's controls respond in realtime but lack the percision of a better control system, they've also been optimised for use by the crew of the Firestar)
Basic Shuttle jump calculating (Very long jump calculation times)
Tailored AI interaction module(designed to link the AI Urist into the ship systems)

AIs:2(Urist, Helios/Bill)

Other Craft:
Away

Hanger
Scout Drone(Fuel: 10/10)
Remote Fighter(Fuel: 180/200, Computing Power:150)
(Forward Mounted Gattling gun:670 gattling rounds Missile launcher: Interceptor )
Old Knell fighter(Fuel; 180/200, Computing Power:75)
(Forward mounted beam weapon x2, Missile Countermeasures: 0 Pilot: Total newbie)
Ravenwind fighter wing (five fighters) (Fuel; 100/200, Computing Power:75)
(Forward mounted beam weapon x2, forward mounted cannon: 0, Rear mounted point defnse gun, Missile Countermeasures: 0, Pilot: No pilots)
Ravenwind fighter wing (five fighters) (Fuel; 100/200, Computing Power:75)
(Forward mounted beam weapon x2, forward mounted cannon: 0, Rear mounted point defnse gun, Missile Countermeasures: 0, Pilot: No pilots)
Ravenwind fighter wing (five fighters) (Fuel; 100/200, Computing Power:75)
(Forward mounted beam weapon x2, forward mounted cannon: 0, Rear mounted point defnse gun, Missile Countermeasures: 0, Pilot: No pilots)


Hanger fuel tank:2564/4000

Cargo:

Spoiler: Flarewise (click to show/hide)

Cargo Vessel
Hull damage: fine
Armor: depleted
System Damage: none
Fuel: 2,231/15,000
Computing Power: 25,000
Weapon Status: fine
Weapons: point defense turret
Empty light turret mount

Crew:10
Crew Morale: normal
Crew rations: 40

Computer System:
Type: Armok Modular system
Modules: Superior Targeting (Turrets + main gun)
Custom sysems Automation(Systems, doors, lifesupport all respond automaticly to crisis situations, are automatic and only active when needed saving power)
Customised manuvering and thrusters (The Firestar's controls respond in realtime but lack the percision of a better control system, they've also been optimised for use by the crew of the Firestar)
Basic Shuttle jump calculating (Very long jump calculation times)



Other Craft
Docked
LR Cargo Shuttle (Fuel: 321/600, Computing Power:60)


Cargo:
23 Halker Fighterbombers
5 Ravenwind fighters
5 vesker torpedo bombers

Spoiler: Galveen 4 trade station rented warehouse (click to show/hide)

Mainframe(network, computing power: 40,000)
Full of computers(only user interface devices left) and heavy machinary
Fully stocked Medbay
basic ship parts
99 flak shells
damaged cargo loader
smoke grenades
explosives (one mines worth)
Escape pods
Some small arms
fighter parts
muon turret
Patrol ship Reactor
80 advanced fabrication components
100 advanced electronic components
5x Crawler Repair Drone
Advanced tools
12 units advanced electronics
3 Fabrication Components
2 Advanced Fabrication Components
two 4 inch cannon turrets
four point defense turrets
one muon turret
one flak turret
one heavy calibre cannon turret

[Angle]

Move all the fighters on to the Flarewise. Have them work on making them remote-controlled. Go back and sift through the wreckage of that pirate base and see what else we can find.

[Immortal]

Were getting somewhere now! Alright lets get some stuff done crew. We need both ships tip top and ready for bigger fish. Use all our crap in the storage to supplement supplies. Basically use any junk we have to subsidize costs.

Spoiler: Shopping List! (click to show/hide)

- Hire 10 crew (Flarewise)
- Hire 6 crew (Firestar) Don't get average spacers, look for good crew to join, want to have adventure and change stuff up
- Full system and armour repair (Firestar + Flarewise) Flarewise has no armour ):
- Upgrade all mounts to Mediums (Firestar - 5200c) upgrade to pt def batteries later
- Install 4 medium mounts (Flarewise - 12400c) pt def batteries to buy later
- Upgrade 2 mounts to Mediums (Flarewise - 1300c) Laser turrets?!
- Install 6 missile tubes (Flarewise - 3000c)
- Major work to the Flarewise
     System to hold 50 remote fighters (move the fighters into the hanger too)
     Mainframe to control fighters and communications to do so
- Place all turrets in storage on the Flarewise's mounts
- Have all fighters turned remote (use our electronics and fabrication stuff, most of our crew can work on this)
- Put the shuttle on the Firestar
- 20 Interceptors (400c)

Feel free to add or modify this guys. Suggest strategies, reasons and stuff to do upgrades. Don't buy more missiles though, were going to Braben hall(Toy Store) after.

"Hey Urist, Helios, think you guys can spend the time in dock to write up some kick ass fighter program? Maybe get them to work as a coherent swarm? You two can use all the fuel and testing you think is needed. Have fun with it. It'll be run off the mainframe in the Flarewise so if we can have human controllers just tell the swarm what large ship to hit they will fighter their way there and attack it."

Jerick - I got those numbers from ones you posted a while ago so you don't have to hunt. Trying to make posts easier

Everyone - Once we get both ships organized, and upgraded we can decide another move from there, Braben Hall for missiles I figure?