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Go after the rogue Captain

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Some Easy Escourt duty

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Screw all you rule obeying fools! There are other means of credit procurement!

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[Immortal]

"A copy of an AI would just be another AI would it not? I would have loved a way to talk this out but he wouldn't let that happen.. If Urist agrees and can dump a copy of him self on Julius's ship then I'm more then happy for that route"

Scott quickly explains to Urist the plan and asks whether its even possible to copy an AI.
He then turns to the bridge "Crew belay that order do not stand down until Urist gives the signal. Zack.. Julius is already opening fire. If Urist can do this, if its even possible we will follow that route of action. If not I hope you'll stand by me in defense of our ship and the AI race."

OOC: We should have blown the EMP at the start and talked it out.. but I think Julius would blow up the ship either way..

[PyroDesu]

They aren't firing quite yet, they're weapons free. So they'll be firing next turn IF we don't get through to Julius. Go with Adwarf.

[Immortal]

If Urist can do this then I'm game..

[10ebbor10]

Orders understood. Preparing to shut down the main reactor.

((Now we're just hoping that there's such a thing as Geneva conventions here))

Prepare to shut down the main reactor, but don't do it yet.

[Urist McDwarfFortress]

If I'm understanding you correctly, you want me to copy myself (I don't know if this is possible) then sneak the original back onto the Firestar while instructing the copy to turn itself over to Julius.  Is that right?

A couple of problem I have with this:
1. These guys will notice a huge packet of information (me) being broadcast from their ship.
2. This will leave me in an extremely precarious position of half of me being held prisoner by people with ever right to kill me and the other half of me on board a ship which most likely contains the single most terrifying thing an AI has ever encountered.
3. If you want a peaceful solution, why not just outrun them?  That would be much better for me and probably for you as well, since we have no guarantee that Julius won't just shoot the Firestar anyway, since he doesn't seem to believe you.  The Firestar is extremely fast, you should be able to easily outpace these guys while we work out a solution.

[PyroDesu]

If I'm understanding you correctly, you want me to copy myself (I don't know if this is possible) then sneak the original back onto the Firestar while instructing the copy to turn itself over to Julius.  Is that right?

A couple of problem I have with this:
1. These guys will notice a huge packet of information (me) being broadcast from their ship.
2. This will leave me in an extremely precarious position of half of me being held prisoner by people with ever right to kill me and the other half of me on board a ship which most likely contains the single most terrifying thing an AI has ever encountered.
3. If you want a peaceful solution, why not just outrun them?  That would be much better for me and probably for you as well, since we have no guarantee that Julius won't just shoot the Firestar anyway, since he doesn't seem to believe you.  The Firestar is extremely fast, you should be able to easily outpace these guys while we work out a solution.

To address 1 and the second half of 2: So don't transmit yourself to the Firestar until we clean it of the killer program.

To address 3: We can provide data logs and such, and since your copy will be confessing, it won't be difficult (I hope). We recorded your breaking into my connection and issuing a false order.

For the first half of 2: It won't be "half of you". It will be you in your entirety, as completely separate from the other, also-whole you. It will be disposable. (That may seem cruel, as it is a sentient entity, but it was created for the purpose of handing over to confess to Julius. It won't "live" long enough to be truly different.)

Remember, it will be a perfect copy, it will have the same memory, personality, etc. up to when it was created, which it shouldn't know about. It will think itself an independent entity, but if we could convince the original, convincing the copy would be done the exact same way.

[Jerick]

Just a quick note to remind everyone that AIs are hardcoded so they can't replicate.

[PyroDesu]

It wasn't really needed anyways, I might still be able to pull this off without it. It just would have made it smoother.

[Immortal]

I would like to say that he has no reason to trust us. There is no Geneva convention in space. We need to fight or run, and while running attempt diplomacy.

[PyroDesu]

I would like to say that he has no reason to trust us. There is no Geneva convention in space. We need to fight or run, and while running attempt diplomacy.

Trying to run will make it all the worse. It might "confirm" to Julius that we're a threat and should be hunted down.

[Immortal]

I mean run as in-system. Leaving this system is not an option.

[PyroDesu]

I mean run as in-system. Leaving this system is not an option.

And where in-system would you go?

[adwarf]

The surface maybe ...

[Immortal]

We can't land the Firestar. This plan would also screw the Flarewise since its slow.
 Does it matter? Its space. There is a huge amount of distance.. we can run in circles and try to talk them down.

Anything is better then sitting like a duck waiting to be shot. Those destroyers are going to open fire next turn. We will have a few moments while they come into range. If another talk doesn't work we have to be ready to move..

So basically we have to agree, if the shutting down and talking attempt doesn't work are we running or fighting?

[PyroDesu]

We can't land the Firestar. This plan would also screw the Flarewise since its slow.
 Does it matter? Its space. There is a huge amount of distance.. we can run in circles and try to talk them down.

Anything is better then sitting like a duck waiting to be shot. Those destroyers are going to open fire next turn. We will have a few moments while they come into range. If another talk doesn't work we have to be ready to move..

So basically we have to agree, if the shutting down and talking attempt doesn't work are we running or fighting?

I think that you should run, maybe to the other side of the star we're orbiting? But then there's still the Flarewise, but it might be able to at least keep pace with the destroyers, so they can't close in for a kill.