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[USEC_OFFICER]

The idea behind Pokemon Orthoclase and Microcline is very simple: If a young Spanish man can make the horror that is Pokemon Quartz by himself, then what's stopping Bay 12 from making their own ROM hack of a Pokemon game? The answer is, of course, nothing except a total lack of expertise and knowledge. But that's what the internet is for. Pokemon Orthoclase and Microcline is (going) to be a collaborative effort by the Bay12 community to create a ROM hack of a Pokemon game. What game? I don't know. What I do know is that it's going to be:
A. Awesome.
B. Filled with memes and references. Not just Dwarf Fortress references too. Feel free to add whatever obscure references you want to add. The idea is to be creative and have fun.
So come join the project, and maybe you'll learn how to make your own ROM hacks. At the very least, we'll have fun doing it.

Obviously the details right now are a bit sketchy, to say the least. I know this for sure. We'll need a ROM of a Pokemon game to hack (Duh), the programs to allow us to hack the ROMs, and ideas/sprites for trainers, pokemon etc.


Project Roster! Everybody who has worked on the project or wants to help the project should add themselves to the roster, for organizational purposes.

Current Project. A list of what needs to be done on the project. If you have nothing else to work on, you should check this list.

Important links:

Spoiler: Tutorials (click to show/hide)

Tutorial for adding new Pokemon to the game. The links you need are all contained in the tutorial.
Another tutorial for adding Pokemon to the game. Because we seem to have reached some technical difficulties.
Basic ROM hacking guide. Doesn't really teach you anything, but it'll help you understand what you're getting into.
Pokecommunity's Tutorial List.

Spoiler: Programs (click to show/hide)

Nifty Emulator for GBA. You'll need it to play the ROM.
Download for RS Ball. Apparently you need it for accessing the palette for Emerald.
Click if you can't get RS Ball to work. It helped me a lot.
Advance Map Download. Used for editing the various maps on the ROM.

Yet Another Pokemon Editor. Incredibly useful for editing Pokemon.

Spoiler: References (click to show/hide)

Useful reference for sprites and spriting.
Reference for background and behaviour types for Advance Map

Link to the actual project itself.
Wiki for Pokemon Orthoclase & Microcline. Yes, we have one already!
Page about the story of the game(s).
We're also on the PokeCommunity forums too!

If you want to help with the project, you'll need to install Git on your computer.
Just follow the instructions on this website and Git will be installed in no time.
GUI for Git. If you have no clue about how to use Git, you'll want need this.

IRC channel for work on Pokemon Orthoclase & Microcline:
irc.newnet.net
#Bay12Dwarfomons

Address of the repo:
git@github.com:GlyphGryph/Bay12Pokemon.git
OR
git://github.com/GlyphGryph/Bay12Pokemon.git

[USEC_OFFICER]

List of Pokemon by Number (For reference):

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

#001 - Boatborn - Fire/ghost type. Ability: Flame Body. Boatborn is born from the undead corpse of a Magamette. They are of course related to Boatmurdered; being ghosts of murderous elephants who were encased in lava.

#002 - Boatforged - Fire/ghost. Ability: Flame Body. Boatforged looks similar to boatborn; but more visibly elephant like.

#003 - Boatmurdad - fire/ghost. ability: flame body. We don't currently have a sprite, but Boatmurdad looks like a big elephant surrounded by smaller ghostly flamey elephants.

#004 - Uncarp - water/dark. Ability: Insomnia. Uncarp is of course a zombified carp. It is primarily defensive.

#005 - Skelfish - water/dark - ability: insomnia. Skelfish looks like a skeletal barracuda.

#006 - Urwhal - water/dark - ability: insomnia. No current sprite. Urwhal is a zombified whale, murderous and evil.

#007 - Perlihorn - normal - ability: Illuminate. Perlihorn is a shout out to both the DF unicorns and My Little Pony. Perlihorn starts off pretty much unable to beat its foe Boatborn in a fight, but has two seperate evolutions that are equally strong.

#008 - Unicron - normal/steel or grass/steel, undecided. ability: Illuminate. Unicron is a stronger, bigger, more lithe version of Perlihorn.

#009 - Perlestia - grass/psychic - ability: Illuminate. Perlestia is a special attacker and one of the most beautiful bayomon thus far. No sprite exists sadly. It evolves from Unicron when exposed to a Sun Stone.

#010 - Lunicron - Steel/Fighting - ability: Illuminate. Lunicron is a physical attacker. They evolve from Unicron at level 36. They're grumpy and arrogant, annoyed with their failure to become Perlestia.

#011 - Espier - Poison/Flying - Ability: Poison Point. A cave floater mon. This is one of the first ones you will see in the game outside of the starters.

#012 - Helgust - Poison/Flying - Ability: Poison Point. A bigger, more dangerous cave floater.

#013 - Shush - Grass - Ability: Effect Spore. A plump helmet mon that looks perpetually horrified.

#014 - Shruman - Grass - Ability: Effect Spore. Shruman is closer to a tower-cap. Their flesh is woody and not tasty; but the woody properties are often used by dwarves as wood.

#015 - Shushtaki - Grass/Fighting - Ability: Speed Boost. Shushtaki appears when Shruman is exposed to a Slade Stone. Shushtaki has no sprite, but it'll look like a Plump Helmet Man carrying a katana made from wood, maybe.

#016 - Egwin - Grass/water - Ability: undecided. Is it a penguin? Is it an eggplant? No one knows.

#017 - Unicorpion - Bug/Poison - Ability: undecided. The Unicorpion combines the fearsome horn of the unicorn with the dangerous sting and ferocity of the scorpion.

#018 - Tssss - Normal - Ability: Speed Boost. Tssss is near useless for the trainer as all it does is explode. It's very nasty if you cannot oneshot it.

#019 - Brumble - Normal - Ability: Shell Armor or Hyper Cutter. Brumble is a baby crundle. It retains the egg it was born from. It's one of the first mons you'll encounter in Bluerobin Cave.

#020 - Crundill - Normal - Ability: Battle Armor or Hyper Cutter. Crundill is an adult crundle. They're fast and agile.

#021 - Hapup - Rock - Ability: Undecided, probably Pick Up or Run Away. Hapup is a sturdy little puppy. Dwarves are frequently found using this mon.

#022 - Rockweiler - Rock - Ability: Undecided. Rockweiler is bigger, stronger and more defensive than Hapup. When exposed to a Whetstone, it evolves into a Kanite; when exposed to a Redstone it evolves into Rockstarr.

#023 - Kanite - Rock/Steel - Ability: Undecided. Kanite came about when a critically injured dog was 'repaired' by his owner; since then, all Rockweilers evolve into Kanite when near a Whetstone.

#024 - Rockstarr - Rock/Electric - Ability: Undecided. Rockstarr is electric. It's proud and intelligent. It's also a reference to Minecraft- well, at least the stone used to evolve it is.

#025 - Spawndorf - Dark/Normal - Ability: undecided, possibly Intimidate. Spawndorf is a reference to the 'Spawn of Holistic' - in DF canon first encountered in the Fall of Headshoots, and later to plague Syrupleaf. They're mutated dwarves who are mindless and shamble about, but fight with a savage skill. In game they are encountered in and around Syrupleaf.

#026 - Leetspawn - Dark/Normal - Ability: undecided, possible Intimidate. Leetspawn is an Elite Spawn. In Syrupleaf canon they are found in HFS; in our game they're an evolution of Spawndorf. They're bigger, stronger, meaner and have fewer weaknesses.

#027 - Magamette - Fire - Ability: Magma Armor - Magamette is a baby elephant, descended from the line of elephants that once assaulted Boatmurdered.

#028 - Magaphant - Fire - Ability: Magma Armor - Magaphant is a young adult elephant. It hates all dwarves for the pain inflicted on its ancestors.

#029 - Vulcaphant - Fire/Rock - Ability: Magma Armor - Vulcaphant is very violent. It can shoot burning hot lava from its trunk.

#030 - Capybar - Water/Steel - Ability: Swift Swim - Capybar is a small capybara with a bell on its back. It uses this to shoot water.

#031 - Capybarung - Water/Steel - Ability: Swift Swim - Capybarung is bigger than Capybar. It exchanged the bell for a small cannon when evolving.

#032 - Capybarage - Water/Steel - Ability: Swift Swim - Capybarage is a gentle giant. It has a huge water cannon on its back.

#033 - Macookie - Normal - Ability: Pick Up - Macookie is a nuisance to burgeoning forts; stealing food and items from them that they need to live. Macookie generally pose little threat in combat. They're quite skittish.

#034 - Macake - Normal/Ice - Ability: Pick Up - Macake occurs when a Macookie is sufficiently gorged on food. Macake are much bolder than Macookies, generally going RIGHT INTO A FORT to steal food.

#035 - Mafrosting - Normal/Ice - Ability: Pick Up - Macake specialised its diet to obtain the maximum sugar, hence it only feeds on icing of cakes. As long as you keep them fed, they will fight for you.

#036 - Dolbok - Ground - Ability: Pickup or Cute Charm - Dolbok is a small, clever creature often found stealing from forts. It is absolutely adorable, which helps its survivability, as it's not very strong in combat.

#037 - Dolbetuk - Ground - Ability: undecided - Dolbetuk is larger than Dolbok, but just as adorable.

#038 - Seegle - Flying/Water - Ability: undecided, maybe Guts? - Seegle is a sea eagle. Quite fast and intelligent, it hunts easily.

#039 - Reegle - Flying - Ability: Undecided, possibly Guts. - Reegle is an eagle that came to land. It evolves into Skeegle when exposed to a Tome Stone.

#040 - Skeegle - Flying/Dark - Ability: Undecided. - Skeegle is an intimidating skeletal bird held together by dark magics.

#041 - Mr.Tusks - Normal - Ability: Undecided - Mr.Tusks is a cheerful but powerful elephant. It's similar to Magaphant, but has no ability to wield flame. It's friendlier and kinder, coming from the DF2010 line of Elephants.

#042 - Skelefaint - Dark - Ability: Undecided - When exposed to a Tome Stone, Mr. Tusks becomes a skeletal elephant.

#043 - Slag - Electric/Psychic - Ability: Truant - Slag is very, very slow, but it excels in slowing the opponent down.

#044 - Fpsnail - Electric/Psychic - Ability: Truant - Fpsnail acquired a shell, allowing it to take hits better.

#045 - Pullame - Steel - Ability: Undecided, maybe Magnet Pull. - Pullame is a lever. It can take any form when exposed to the right things.

#046 - Spikayu - Steel/Electric - Ability: Undecided. - Spikayu is a spike trap. Its attacks revolve around stabbing opponents with Spike Cannon or similar moves.

#047 - Smashayu - Steel/Rock - Ability: Undecided - Smashayu attacks by floating over the enemy and dropping a huge rock on them.

#048 - Meltayu - Steel/Fire - Ability: Undecided - When Meltayu opens its mouth, flee, because magma will shoot out in a second.

#049 - Fridgyu - Steel/Ice - Ability: Undecided - Sibling to Meltayu, Fridgyu spits near freezing water that upon contact with air, freezes instantly.

#050 - Kageyu - Steel - Ability: Arena Trap? - Kageyu is all about reflecting damage.

#051 - Cat-2 - Electric - Ability: Static or Cute Charm - Cat-2 are two little cable-like cats that have a plug for a mouth. They're very good at slowing things down.

#052 - Cat-5 - Electric - Ability: Static or Cute Charm - Cat-5 is a veritable tangle of cable-cats. They are almost too tangled to come apart anymore.

#053 - Cat-Clowd - Electric - Ability: Static or Cute Charm - Cat-Clowd is a mass of cable-cats. Where they gather, reality slows to a crawl.

#054 - Polyceps - Grass/Psychic - Ability: Liquid Ooze or Chlorophyll - Polyceps is a fungus that reproduces by taking control of other Bayomon.

#055 - Schoolbus - Grass/Psychic - Ability: Liquid Ooze or Battle Armor - A large, agressive creature engineered by the Polyceps virus. It's not satisfied unless it destroys at least two civilizations by lunchtime.

#056 - Jethro - Dark/Psychic - Ability: Clear Body - Jethro is a fungus that can control minds. It's huge and deadly; and evolved to control its home planet. Be thankful that it's on your side.

#057 - Cavider - Bug - Ability: Swarm - Cavider is a little spider found in the deep underground.

#058 - Givider - Bug - Ability: Swarm - Dwarves fear Givider. It's big enough to easily kill them with its huge fangs, not to mention its venomous bite and webs.

#059 - Pyresprite - Fire - Ability: Blaze - Pyresprite lives in magma. It's a nuisance in established forts.
 
#060 - Spiriblaze - Fire/Flying - Ability: Blaze - Spiriblaze is nasty, flingin' fire everywhere.

#061 - Skelk - Dark - Ability: Intimidate - Skelk is an elk held together by dark magic.

#062 - Skarmint - Dark - Ability: undecided - Skarmint is a... I don't know

#063 - Hoarfrost - Ice - Ability: Limber - Hoarfrost is a frosty hoary marmot. It sleeps with anything. It's the ditto analogue in our game, at least breeding wise.

#064 - Roatid - Poison - Ability: Undecided - Roatid is the embodiment of the stench of rotting meat.

#065 - Miasmata - Poison - Ability: Undecided - Miasmata is the stench that pervades an unhealthy fort.

#066 - Bogesh - Ghost - Ability: Intimidate or Shadow Tag - Bogesh is a little shadowy orb that follows lone people and pummels them down.

#067 - Boogey - Ghost/Dark - Ability: Intimidate or Shadow Tag - Boogey has sharp claws and is now bipedal. It ambushes those who are out at night.

#068 - Wambler - Normal - Ability: Undecided - An unsuspecting little rabbit like creature. It's extremely violent.

#069 - Gianbane - Normal - Ability: undecided - A slightly larger little rabbit like creature. It's violent, almost op.

#070 - Dapparition - Psychic - Ability: possibly Trace or Synchronise - A strange, hovering, disembodied face with a top hat, monocle, moustache and rather nice gloves.

#071 - Cawallow - Normal/Flying - Ability: Guts - A small swallow found underground.

#072 - Bigallow - Normal/Flying - Ability: Guts - A gigantic swallow found underground. +1 cool points if you nickname it Deuce.

#073 - Caviator - Normal/Flying - Ability: Guts - A winged humanoid with the head of a swallow, wearing fashionable if useless goggles.

#074 - Koiprynus - Water - Ability: Undecided - A koi with nothing really special about it.

#075 - Sturgebeker - Water - Ability: Undecided - A sturgeon that's a butcher. Name by Darvi.

#076 - Carposon - Water - Ability: Undecided - A carp that makes up matter itself. Give it a Tome Stone to hold and the egg it produces is an Uncarp.

[Dsarker]

Post to watch.

[LordSlowpoke]

Posting to watch, too. May jump into the project if it spins up depending on my schelude.

[Untouchable]

Well, I'm willing to help come up with ideas. Not so much actually do any hacking since I don't know shit about coding but you'll have my help.

The Professor Oak of this game has to be a crazy drunken hobo. It would explain the Professor Oak memes.

[GlyphGryph]

Post to be involved (though we already knew that much)

I plan on adding Cave Spider / Giant Cave Spider / Colossal Cave Spider, at least.

[LostCosmonaut]

I also don't know crap about coding, but I will provide moral and/or ideological support. Also, which generation are we going to (loosely) base this off of?

[Dsarker]

No, no. We're doing all sorts of Bay12 stuff (even the suggestion to make it in ASCII), so let's make him a dwarf fortress noble!

[GlyphGryph]

I think all the humans should be dwarves. Change number one.

[Dsarker]

Yes. Also, all pokemon should be DF animals.


Aim of the game is not to become a Pokemon Master, but a Dungeon Master.

[USEC_OFFICER]

Posting to watch, too. May jump into the project if it spins up depending on my schelude.

Well, right now the amount of involvement in the project is low. We don't have ROM to start hacking, so we're mostly just coming up with ideas right now.

Not so much actually do any hacking since I don't know shit about coding but you'll have my help.

I also don't know crap about coding, but I will provide moral and/or ideological support.

You don't have to know anything about coding or hacking, because nobody seems too either, so we're all basically learning at the same time. If you don't want to learn, then you can help out by providing ideas and eventually play-testing the thing.

Also, which generation are we going to (loosely) base this off of?

Depends on what game's ROM we can get. If we can get a ROM for Pokemon Yellow, then we could base it off of that. Though from what I've been reading so far, it could be possible to completely redo the game however we want to. If we eventually decide to completely redo the game, then we'll probably want Pokemon Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, Firered or Leafgreen. They're the most advanced Pokemon games that still use sprites, instead of the 3D overworld that the later generations have.

[GlyphGryph]

Yes. Also, all pokemon should be DF animals.

Disagree. Too restricting, I want to have fun with this.

[monk12]

I really hopes this happens. I don't have much ROM related experience, and I'm certainly not confident enough in my meager programming abilities to volunteer on a project like this, but I'd still like to contribute in whatever little way I can, even if that only ends up sitting in the bleachers going "Go Team! WHOO!"

While we wait for people with applicable knowledge/assets to take interest, why not throw out some ideas, either for Mons or general design decisions? I like the idea of the general setting being DF-themed, visiting the various Fortresses, fighting Elven Trainers in the forest, what have you. Mons are a pretty obvious place for random memes and one-off jokes unrelated to anything else in game to pop up.

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Yes. Also, all pokemon should be DF animals.


Aim of the game is not to become a Pokemon Master, but a Dungeon Master.

This has a lot of potential, especially given the wierder ones. At the very least Poke-analogs for the cave critters should be in. I would also suggest that the currently unused Fanciful creatures be the game's Legendaries. Not sure what elemental affiliations Centaurs, Griffons, and Chimeras would have, but it would be a nice injoke that the legendaries are actually legendary. We could use creatures that used to be in-game (I seem to recall hearing about Ent-analogs in 23a) for the fossils, too.

[GlyphGryph]

/based/ on DF animals, maybe. But they should at least be pokemonized.

oooh, electric type!

Cat-2 -> Cat-5 -> Catsplosion

Two catlike cable pokemon for the first, 5 for the second, and just a WALL of cable pokemon for the last. (Which obviously learns the move explosion)

[Dsarker]

/based/ on DF animals, maybe. But they should at least be pokemonized.

oooh, electric type!

Cat-2 -> Cat-5 -> Catsplosion

Two catlike cable pokemon for the first, 5 for the second, and just a WALL of cable pokemon for the last. (Which obviously learns the move explosion)

If we can modify the moves, we might also be able to get it to cause the enemy pokemon team to lose a lot of speed.