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[Korbac]

Yeah, sorry about things like that. I'm not sure what I quite compared it to. I think as it's simply a 2 stager mon, the final stage should be bit more powerful than the 2nd stage of a 3 stager, but not as strong as the final stage of a 3 stager. (Apologies if this requires a lot of reading to make sense of.)

Keep up the good work, I'll do a little more tonight

[Reudh]

I know what you mean, man. Generally speaking, two-stagers DO have lower stats than three-stagers, but the level you put Novoto's stats at was at the second stage of a third stage evo, if you know what I mean, rather than a final of a two stage.

Nintendo example:

Swellow: Two stager, weighted to speed: 430 base.
Pidgeot: Three stager, weighted to speed (just): 469 base.
Noctowl: Two stager, weighted to HP: 442 base.
Staraptor: Three stager, weighted to Attack and Speed: 475 base.
Unfezant: Three stager, weighted to Attack: 478 base.

These are all similar pokemon, in that they are all final forms of an early-encountered flying type. One can say that the two stagers DO have lower base stats compared to their three-stage counterparts, but not by much. (430 and 442 vs. 469, 475 and 478).

[Korbac]

Yes, this is what I was trying to say.  A shame I didn't follow my own advice properly! 

[Reudh]

Ah, I see.

Well, I'm going to bed now!

Send me PMs if you need help with the wiki, man.

[Korbac]

Will do bruv. (This post is here to try and hassle everyone else into taking time out of their lives to try and work on this  )

I never knew balancing stats and setting up balanced movesets could be so tough! 

[Johuotar]

Your right, I need to kick myself tomorrow and devote a bit time to do something again. I'll get on on the irc too if someone ends up there. ETA: at least 10 hours.

[Korbac]

I'll probably be on the go to a DISTANT DESTINATION at that time, but feel free to do any sort of work for the project.

[Johuotar]

I had to to something about Bajrager as it was apparantly my idea (I dont even remember anymore) so here's something. It might have a bit too low stats actually being no evolution mon. Posting it here anyway, but it might be a bit work in progress atm. 

Ill have look at the rom tomorrow.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

**Number** : 112 -
**Type** : Ground -
**Species** : Badger badger badger badger badger badger MUSHROOM MUSHROOM! -

Place images here.

**Evolves From** : None

**Evolves To** : None

**Overall Description** :
A ground type badger that doesnt give a **ck.

**Physical Description** :
Badger/Sandhrew + some ground type look. I really have no accurate idea at all.

**Description Microline** :
Very territorial. It usually protects itself with its sharp claws which are suberb for digging.

**Description Orthoclase** :
Very aggressive and highly wanted Bayobeast that lives underground in arid locations.

### Region and Encounter Rate Data

### Gender Ratio
50/50

### Gives EV Type/Number
    Special Defense   1
### Statistics
    HP              65
    Attack     80
    Defense     70
    Special Attack     55
    Special Defense 60
    Speed              50
    Total              380
### Abilities
    Sand Veil

### Held Item Details
### Moveset
    Start Sand-Attack 
    Start Scratch
    11     Magnitude
    16     Focus Energy
    22    Slash
    25     Rage
    32    Fury Swipes
    39     Sand Tomb
    41    Trash
    47    Sandstorm
    56    Earthquake


### Egg Group
    Field   ()
Undiscovered
   

[Korbac]

Sounds good, although if it's "sought - after" you may want to buff it a little, say to around the ~450 stat point range.

Other than that, really cool!

[Reudh]

Twas what I was thinking. Most no-stage mons have a good stat to compensate for their lack of evolution, eg. Kangaskhan, with a base of 490.

[Johuotar]

I'll buff it a bit and tweak the descriptions, then Ill look at the new route that was made, specifically where it was saved and how the connections work and was it saved over some old map.

[Johuotar]

If I place grass somewhere does that make automatically pokemon appear there or do I have to designate those areas with triggers or designations or something? Does placing grass alone make it area where wild battles can happen?

[Bluerobin]

It's actually part of the grass, so you just have to place it.

[Korbac]

Awesome! What area are you doing Jot?

[Johuotar]

As I havent used advance map much yet, I'm currently just modifying the map USEC_OFFICER made. Learning more about the different movement restrictions and where the blocks are at the same time. I'll show the modified version of the map when I'm done.