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[SirAaronIII]

I used 6 counting the background, actually. The main orange, the slightly lighter orange for the lower body fire, red, a darker orange, and black. The background is white.

In other news, how big should backsprites be?
E: I also threw together a sprite for Skeegle. Also pictured: My approximation of dark magic and a complete inability to draw bird hips and skulls.

This one uses 4 colors, not counting the red background.

[GlyphGryph]

And it doesn't really fit the breakthrough I had in his line anyway, like I commented on 4 posts ago.

SirAaronII - It certainly doesn't look like an evolution of my pyresprite... but I like it!

Could you try and give it what looks like some features of the pyresprite? Or do you think we should just dump the pyresprite? Or just say 'fuck progressions that look similiar".

Could probably say it's like a big, and Pyresprite is the larval form, justifying why they are so very different...

Hey, maybe we could even stick cocoon stage in the middle or something!

[bulborbish]

Spoiler: Sireno Line (click to show/hide)

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             Sireno-27->Manlantis-WSTN->Picilyeh
Rage            5
Water Gun       7
Focus Energy   11
Whirlpool      16
Detect         23
Rolling Kick   28          30
Screech        31          34
Slash          35          37              41
Water Pulse                42              46
Brick Break                46              49
Pain Split                 48              53
Notes:
 - Sireno is just Water, Manlantis and Picilyeh are Water/Fighting

Spoiler: Sirena Line (click to show/hide)

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             Sirena-27->Ostrandia-WSTN->Merododem
Bubble          5
Foresight       8
Safeguard      14
Mudshot        17
Lovely Kiss    21
Fake Tears     26
Takedown       29          33
Bubblebeam     34          38
Curse                      42              40
Haze           39          45              48
Shadowball                 49              53
Waterpulse                 52              56
Memento                                    59
Notes:
 - Crys before being slaughtered into Ostrandia
 - Sirena is just Water, Ostrandia and Picilyeh are Water/Ghost

Spoiler: OMG SCAMPS (click to show/hide)

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             Scamps
Attract        1
Confusion      1
Calm Mind      1
Fury Swipes    1
Psybeam       17   
Charm         22
Fake Tears    26
Mind Reader   33
Psychic       38
Iron Tail     45
Recover       49
Notes:
 - Made a preliminary Moveset, assuming Scamps as a Psychic Type
 - Maybe get as a reward for the Noble Quest? Assumed for the starting moveset.
 - Name can be changed if you want, but Scamps works fine in my book.

Spoiler: Dorfmentus (click to show/hide)

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             Dorfmentus
Confusion        5
Calm Mind       11
Hypnosis        15
Dream Eater     19
Karate Chop     26
Confuse Ray     29
Bulk Up         35
Psychic         41
Kinesis         46
High Jump Kick  49
Recover         54
Psychoboost     61
Notes:
 - Made the player Dorfmentus as mixed path as possible. Probably balanced statwise.
 - Psychic Type, of course, with a heavy sprinkling of fighting.

Spoiler: Pyresprite's Moveset (click to show/hide)

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             Pyresprite  Spiriblaze
Tackle           5
Ember            7
Supersonic       8
Faint Attack     13
Growth           15
Spite            19
Fake Tears       23
Scary Face       27         
Flamethrower     35          37
Fire Spin        38          42
Air Cutter                   44
Sacred Fire      43          48
Sunny Day                    52
Sky Attack                   55
Blast Burn                   74
Notes:
 - Pulled from my original post about Pyresprite. Adjusted levels a little bit.
 - Evolves at level 25

Spoiler: Boogesh's Moveset Round 4 (click to show/hide)

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             Boogesh  Boogey
Dream Eater     1
Nightmare                1
Scratch         5
Leer            5
Scary Face      7
Fury Swipes     13
Bite            19
Bouble Team     24 
Shadow Ball     30
Hypnosis        35      38
Slash           37      40
Mean Look       40      44
Crunch          46      51
Perish Song             56
Torment         55      61


Reposting Movesets  that have gotten no commentary or lack final appoval (I.E. put in the wiki by someone who is a better githubber than me.)

[GlyphGryph]

Has anyone added you to the wiki contributor list? Do you have a github account? It's really really easy to add them yourself, and if no one else has added them it's because there's so much to do that it always seems more important to do our own stuff. Adding them yourself really IS the best way to see them get added - and if you add them stupidly, they are more likely to be fixed by one of our roaming editors than to be put on their originally.

[bulborbish]

The main issue is I have difficulty putting them in code format. Otherwise, I would have just put them up instead of the last post.

Yes I do have a git-hub, but not as a contributor (I only spend my time doing wiki-stuff, not working on actual files.)

[Bluerobin]

Yeah wiki format's a bit annoying. To get a series of lines into a code box you put two spaces before each line. I think you need two spaces at the end of a line to create a new line if you're having issues with that too.

[Darvi]

Either two spaces at the end of a line or five at the beginning, depending on the layout you want..

[GlyphGryph]

Also, Bluerobin, like your new avatar. ^_^

[Bluerobin]

Haha thanks. I meant to ask you what you used to make yours. I'd like transparent backgrounds and some actual dynamic changes from frame to frame, but I decided sleep was more important at the time. I think I could make gimp do it I just need to find the tutorial.

Also, finding active poses for a mon based on an alpha monkey is hard. Monkey proportions are all weird. Are there monkey pokemon other than the Chimchar line? Oh and the Mankey line, although they're not really monkeys, more like puffballs with limbs.

[GlyphGryph]

Mankey. Duh. And Mankey is much more awesome than the other monkeys. There's chimchar and... the really stupid three from black and white?

[Bluerobin]

Oh yeah those three... Although for poses, Mankey/Primeape works now that I took a look.

[GlyphGryph]

Yeah, he's got the most aggressive poses of the bunch, I think.

Also, I did my avatar in GIMP. It's pretty easy.

You just make every frame a layer, save it as a gif, select "animated, replace all" and it will cycle through the frames, from bottom to top (and then back to the bottom)

Edit:

Also, I've been meaning to say - I think Macookie needs a brighter (maybe bigger?) looking cookie. It's kind of hard to tell he's holding one - it just sort of looks like he's clutching his hands to his chest which is in deep shadow.

[bulborbish]

I have Success in Wikiediting

Fixing a few things, and added Pyresprite's Moveset to the Wiki (as it was only a repost, to be honest.)

Will add the rest of the listed movesets tomorrow if I don't get any commentary on how to change them.

[Darvi]

Remember to move the mons to the appropriate position in the list.

I also noticed nobody pushed the spiriblaze sprite. Gotta rectify that.

[Bluerobin]

Ok Bulborbish, I looked through the movesets... finally. Sorry it took me so long. Some thoughts (that kind of turned into big walls of text ):

Overall I like the Sireno/Sirena lines. I feel like Sireno could use another move or two, though (it only learns 5 moves before it evolves at 27... that's kind of not very many), maybe Karate Chop or something like that between 16 and 23? I know it's only water at that point, but regardless of how useful it is it's some flavor and something to keep the mon interesting. Also, someone mentioning breeding made me realize you'll want to bump down their first moves to level 1. I THINK newly hatched mons are level 1 in Gen 3, so if we end up getting breeding in, newly hatched Sirenos/Sirenas won't know any moves the way they are. Maybe even add a new move at level one for each of them (Comet Punch for Sireno, Double Slap for Sirena?) to fill them out a little more.

Scamps feels ok, but not particularly legendary, especially when you compare its moveset to Dorfmentus, which is better in almost every way. I know that moves don't necessarily make a legendary great, but.... yeah. I'd say add in some things that make it hard to hit (maybe Minimize/Double Team and Sand Attack/Mud Slap?), since that's a theme that might go well with a cute little cat legendary and they can make whatever mon they're on really frustratingly overpowered in a lot of circumstances. The problem with that suggestion is that, while that might make a powerful mon, it still doesn't feel legendary for some reason, so other suggestions would be great.

Dorfmentus... wow. Is that a pseudolegendary/legendary? That's a seriously powerhouse moveset, especially if Dorfmentus is Psychic/Fighting (which I'm not sure about). It could be ok as-is if it's supposed to be really good, but if not, you might want to get rid of a theme or two. Some ideas are: take out Dream Eater/Recover to make it less durable, take out Bulk Up/Calm Mind so it can't snowball as much, take out Confuse Ray/Kinesis so it can't control as well, or take out some of the high end powerful moves. If it's a normal Bayomon then I'd say probably any two of those would be necessary, maybe adding in basic one stat boosting moves to fill the gaps.

The Boogesh line looks great though! I do like the dynamic of it learning a pretty good move at level 1 but it being mostly useless until it learns Hypnosis later unless you get to a move tutor/relearner and have it relearn it there.

Edit: also, these are all just my opinions, definitely not gospel. Feel free to say "umm nope, I was going for something, I'm going to keep them how they are" if you want. I can already tell we aim for different numbers of moves (you seem to go for 11-13, I go for 18-20) so I know we do some things differently. Just wanted to give what input I could.