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[zzedar]

Something odd just happened, and I'm trying to figure out if it's just coincidence. In a recent goblin siege, I captured the goblin general in a cage trap. After this, for a while all goblin aggression ceased -- no sieges, no ambushes, no thieves (that I detected). Eventually I got around to killing the general, and sieges started up again almost immediately. There are three possibilities that I can see:

• It's just coincidence, and the captive general had nothing to do with the absence of sieges.
• This is an intentional feature, the goblins not attacking while I hold their leader hostage.
• There's some sort of bug that prevents them from launching new sieges while their general is still on the map.

Anyone know what the deal is here?

[King DZA]

If the general wasn't able to leave, then the SIEGE tag at the top of the screen probably never went away, which I think prevents other attacks from occurring.

EDIT: Just noticed it said he was caught in a cage trap, which normally wouldn't be able to prolong the siege even after the goblins had fled. Maybe it's an exception for high-ranking siegers?

[Mitchewawa]

I caught a goblin general once. I dug a 1x1 pit to the 3rd cavern layer and dropped him in.

Though I don't think holding a general stops invasions; sure it wasn't a coincidence?

[zzedar]

Just noticed it said he was caught in a cage trap, which normally wouldn't be able to prolong the siege even after the goblins had fled. Maybe it's an exception for high-ranking siegers?

No, the siege definitely ended.

Though I don't think holding a general stops invasions; sure it wasn't a coincidence?

No, I'm not sure. That's why I asked.

[ledgekindred]

Probably coincidence.

The only thing that capturing a general should do is prevent him from showing up again.  Same as with any other notable members of the goblin civ. 

I've caught/killed the leader of the nearby goblin civ a couple of times and all that does is prevent any subsequent invasions from having mounts.  You should still get sieges and ambushes and whatnot.

[Loud Whispers]

Probably coincidence.

The only thing that capturing a general should do is prevent him from showing up again.  Same as with any other notable members of the goblin civ. 

I've caught/killed the leader of the nearby goblin civ a couple of times and all that does is prevent any subsequent invasions from having mounts.  You should still get sieges and ambushes and whatnot.

Yeah, capturing generals only stops mounts from appearing, until they elect a new one.

[tommy521]

If the general wasn't able to leave, then the SIEGE tag at the top of the screen probably never went away, which I think prevents other attacks from occurring.

EDIT: Just noticed it said he was caught in a cage trap, which normally wouldn't be able to prolong the siege even after the goblins had fled. Maybe it's an exception for high-ranking siegers?

Just to clear this up, you can get multiple sieges, even if you still have the siege tag.

[King DZA]

hm, really? I could of sworn the siege tag prevented something from happening...

[Loud Whispers]

hm, really? I could of sworn the siege tag prevented something from happening...

Think its migrants... Don't quote me on that though. Migrants keep getting killed on my maps so often...

[khearn]

In the Soaplanterns story they captured the goblin general, and it stopped the goblins from having mounts. But they still continued to send sieges while the general was held captive.

[tommy521]

hm, really? I could of sworn the siege tag prevented something from happening...

Think its migrants... Don't quote me on that though. Migrants keep getting killed on my maps so often...

(As far as I can tell) That is true, gone several seasons without migrants while a siege was active. Not getting the message "The fortress has attracted no migrants this season" either.

EDIT: However, you can still get migrants with any number of ambushes on a map. I am not sure if this works for elven sieges as they act hidden as ambushes do, but I would imagine they would come until the siege force was discovered.

[Kattel]

you can most certainly be subjected to multiple sieges whilst one is already on the field. by both the already present race and other races.

have seen it many many times playing fort defense mod

[Loud Whispers]

you can most certainly be subjected to multiple sieges whilst one is already on the field. by both the already present race and other races.

have seen it many many times playing fort defense mod

Yeah, same in vanilla too. (3 Goblin lasher sieges, one elf).

[floundericiousWA]

you can most certainly be subjected to multiple sieges whilst one is already on the field. by both the already present race and other races.

have seen it many many times playing fort defense mod

Yeah, same in vanilla too. (3 Goblin lasher sieges, one elf).

Question: Can two different races launch a siege against you at the same time?  As in elves and goblins?

If so... Do they fight each other?

[Loud Whispers]

They will fight