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[AzuredreamsXT]

I had a baron appointed, from a peasant so it's not like he should have internalized high expectations etc. Before i upgraded his room, he was "completely traumatized by the sleeping arrangements of a pretentious lesser". This coupled with smelling miasma was enough to, despite frequent other happy thoughts, make him miserable, and after a short time he went insane. Seriously?

Now the fort progresses no further, as no other baron will ever be appointed, and you need a baron to progress to count/duchy etc. As this is the only goal beyond simple survival Toady has implemented in the game, it would seem this fort is finished.

Is the fact that no new baron can be appointed a bug? They pass their title onto children, but if they have no children then the fort is screwed.

[Couchmonster]

Yes it is a bug.

[Nyxalinth]

I had a baron appointed, from a peasant so it's not like he should have internalized high expectations etc. Before i upgraded his room, he was "completely traumatized by the sleeping arrangements of a pretentious lesser". This coupled with smelling miasma was enough to, despite frequent other happy thoughts, make him miserable, and after a short time he went insane. Seriously?

Now the fort progresses no further, as no other baron will ever be appointed, and you need a baron to progress to count/duchy etc. As this is the only goal beyond simple survival Toady has implemented in the game, it would seem this fort is finished.

Is the fact that no new baron can be appointed a bug? They pass their title onto children, but if they have no children then the fort is screwed.

When I see my fort getting to this point, I always dig out some rooms and get them all fixed up.  I also make sure it's all furnished and ready to go and assign the person I intend to choose.  I also choose someone with easy to meet requirements and a fairly easy-going personality.  Even with all this, I make sure their rooms are close to the caverns/magma.  Just to make sure they're safe and warm, of course

Of course if I'm in a mood and don't care, then I just do it however.  Fun ensues.

[zombat]

First baron I ever appointed was my head miner with a steel pick

He went berserk in the dining room killing the bunch of kids that were piling up.

Cue tantrum spiral

[AzuredreamsXT]

Well since it's a bug, assuming the poster 2 above me is correct, i'm gonna just keep track of the requirements to be a duchy etc and make a mental note when i achieve them. Can others verify that nobles not being replaced when they die (barons, counts etc) is in fact a known bug?

[ledgekindred]

Once I get the basics set up - a few necessary workshops, food production and some trade goods, I start building bedrooms for all my dorfs, who all get a bed and a cabinet for their stuff.  I want them to sleep in their own bed and admire own cabinet versus sleeping piled into one cramped dormitory room where half of them will sleep on the floor.  Maybe it's just me that I care about the comfort of my poor little dorfs, since their lives otherwise are inevitably "poor, nasty, brutish and short."  (no pun intended...)

I almost always wind up appointing my expedition leader to baron, count, duke, etc, so I will build a large bedroom for him/her and add furnishings as necessary for the requirements of their office.

Generally by the time I need to appoint someone, I've mined out enough metals and have crafters with high enough skills that I can crank out masterwork furniture to slap into their room, making them happy.

Right now my Duchess and Queen both have rooms full of gold, masterwork furniture, with the exception of a few items in the Duchess' room made out of lay pewter, because she has a preference for it.

[melphel]

To clarify, jealousy is triggered by anyone having a room that exceeds their rank, and not necessarily someone having a better room than the noble in question.

If you gave every one of your dwarves an engraved bedroom with a bed-cabinet-chest combo, then chances are that most of the dwarves in the fort have a room that exceeds their means.  I believe if a commoner has "decent quarters" or higher quality, it is going to piss off a jealous noble.  Don't overdo commoners' rooms, they can still get happy thoughts just from having their own bed, even if their bedroom is just one tile with a bed on it.

Barons/Counts/Dukes are gone for good if they die without an heir.  This probably is a bug, but becoming the capital isn't that big a deal, imo.  You just have more silly demands to meet.

[King DZA]

My baron seems to be traumatized by the burial arrangements of other dwarves on a regular basis(I don't care if it makes you unhappy, my memorable dwarves are all getting royal tombs, damn it!). I just let him walk around miserable until he sleeps in his legendary bedroom, gorges himself on a legendary meal or two, maybe admire some tastefully arranged furniture, then, before you know it, he's right back to the fat, happy little bastard I know and love.

[krisslanza]

Darn nobles, what if I want my commoners to live comfortable lives!? They at least work, unlike you do nothing nobles... 

[melphel]

Darn nobles, what if I want my commoners to live comfortable lives!? They at least work, unlike you do nothing nobles... 

I think the players that are adamant about lavishing the wealth on every dwarf just end up giving the pretentious nobles some unfortunate 'accidents' to offset the jealousy.

[Intro1827]

Or a mist generator in their room(s)

[EveryZig]

Or magma mist generators in their room(s).
(Hard to do, but I hear you can do it using cave-ins)

[Xotano]

Or magma mist generators in their room(s).
(Hard to do, but I hear you can do it using cave-ins)

, yea if you fill the room with magma and drop a floor into it it should mist there rooms pretty well. they like it best when they are actually in the room.

[nenjin]

Yep. Always low ball dwarf housing. 1x3 rooms (or even 1x2) are enough to keep most dwarves satisfied. Anything beyond that is a pure luxury.

If you think noble jealousy is bad though.....when the dwarven economy kicks in, you end up with 10 garbage dwarves living in rooms that are 10x more than they can afford, and everyone quits their rooms en mass to go sleep in the infirmary or the barracks where the beds don't cost anything. It's kind of poetic when you think about it. The dwarves that busted their asses to build this luxurious fortress for themselves lose their shirts the minute there's an economy.

[khearn]

Good thing there's no economy any more.